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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611756
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I'll keep my beliefs on abortion to myself. However, the Federal government ruling that they don't have the power to legislate individual choices is a win any way you slice it.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SGT. C] #7611757
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
"The point! CHOICE. To what is best for you and your body."

It boils down to the reason for denial of choice. Since conception has not happened with tubes tied or vasectomy, there's no valid reason for denial of that choice. Its not like it would result in murder, as is the case with abortion.

Only abstinence is 100%.


Wow, so you do get it.

So much evil in this world stems from not being able to restrain one's carnal desires.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: PAskinner] #7611760
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
I remember something a man at church said many years ago that stuck with me, to the effect that he thought eventually going to other states would be like going to another country here in the good old USA. I think he may have been right. With states starting to decide stuff like the right to carry and whether abortion is legal, I think we may find that eventually, people will migrate to the states that best match their morals or lack of morals in their laws. In one aspect this is good because it means you can be with people who think like you do but in another aspect, it's sad that our unity as a country is basically gone.
But this is a good day and we should celebrate life winning.

Well said


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611761
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Praise the Lord. Now vote in folks that will save babies in your state


Everything the left touches it destroys
Re: Roe is gone [Re: warrior] #7611763
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by SGT. C
Now, everyone calm down. Your getting your bp up.
Now, you men that got an vasectomy. Was that your choice? If yes, aren't you happy you had a choice.

Also, just cause we dont all agree. Doesn't mean one is right or wrong and we dont have be uncouth about it


You're going to go there?

Such a weak weak argument when tubal ligation, contraceptives and just say no are all legitimate CHOICES a woman can make.

BTW, by my count men have but two choices vasectomy and abstinence vs multiple choices for women.

Weak weak argument.

So, you speak for all women to what is right or wrong for them. Also, you putting all the blame on women for getting pregnant?
Warrior, we are going to disaree. No doubt about that. I respect you and your argument. I'm for a women's right to choose.
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Re: Roe is gone [Re: Catch22] #7611764
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They always say that a woman can do what's best for her body but what's best for the baby's body I don't think the baby would choose death

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611765
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My only big concern I have had with this issue going this way is this November. This is going to enrage the left and especially the nutcases. It will give shmuck shimmer and bella pelosi a hard and very divisive issue to run on.

The winners in any hot issue usually sit back on their laurels and giggle at the loser. Don't sit on your laurels. We have to turn out in armies to ensure this wave of common sense continues.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Roe is gone [Re: SGT. C] #7611766
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Now, everyone calm down. Your getting your bp up.
Now, you men that got an vasectomy. Was that your choice? If yes, aren't you happy you had a choice.

Also, just cause we dont all agree. Doesn't mean one is right or wrong and we dont have be uncouth about it


Can you get back to us after you have watched an abortion video?

I am glad you are standing your ground but the ground you stand on is quicksand.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611767
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Ultimately in all cases of consensual intercourse, yes. She made the call. It's not a right or wrong at that point but a consequence of one's actions.

Right or wrong enters when you consider ending the life that began at the moment of conception.

To follow your logic of situational right or wrong then one could make the case for knocking over liquor stores when one is impoverished.

I well remember a philosophical question many of us were asked as children.

If stealing is always wrong can it be okay to nick a loaf of bread if one were starving?

If yes, then just bread? Why not a steak?


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611768
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But the silver lining is if ice cream joey continues to slap the SCOTUS in the face, the SCOTUS might have a different opinion on election laws.


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The guy who ran on reuniting America (who believed that?), is on live doing the exact opposite.

One would think a President would tell people to respect our highest courts decision instead of saying he will try to intervene.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SGT. C] #7611770
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Now all you men that has chimed in. How would you feel if you were in a womens shoes. You like being told what to do with your body.?


#1 Take precautions if you don’t want to get pregnant. #2 if you do get pregnant, have the baby and put the child up for adoption. There are many people that want to adopt and some people are placed on a waiting lists for years to adopt. A lot better than murdering the baby. I have an adopted granddaughter since the biological mother didn’t want the baby but she also didn’t want to abort her and decided to place her up for adoption before she was born.

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Ice cream Joey is blubbering now about rape and incest. Literally blubbering.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611773
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I had a co-worker who found out he was a Dad 16 years after his daughter was born. Anybody who has had sex out of wedlock could have been responsible for a pregnancy they never knew about or the outcome of that pregnancy. “You don’t know what you don’t know.

That said overturning Roe vs. Wade and returning that power to the states is a good thing.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: bowhunter27295] #7611777
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by SGT. C
Now, everyone calm down. Your getting your bp up.
Now, you men that got an vasectomy. Was that your choice? If yes, aren't you happy you had a choice.

Also, just cause we dont all agree. Doesn't mean one is right or wrong and we dont have be uncouth about it


Can you get back to us after you have watched an abortion video?

I am glad you are standing your ground but the ground you stand on is quicksand.

Only ground i'm stading on is a women's right.
Gentlemen, im going leave this discussion. It has been intriguing. I respect all of you, just cause we disagree doesn't mean we are enemies. We are fellow T-Man members which is like family to many of us. Sarge


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611778
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This abortion issue has to do if you belive in the cross of Jesus
Christ. If you do then you belive in his words if you don't your still
controlled by the Devil no inbetween ground.

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Originally Posted by SGT. C

Only ground i'm stading on is a women's right.
Gentlemen, im going leave this discussion. It has been intriguing. I respect all of you, just cause we disagree doesn't mean we are enemies. We are fellow T-Man members which is like family to many of us. Sarge


Are you going to go watch an abortion video?


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SGT. C] #7611781
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
No matter your side. A Womens Body, A Womens Choice. Not any form of government. Sarge



And she should be charged with murder if she kills her baby along with everyone involved.
After all if a drunk driver can be charged with double murder after killing a pregnant woman anyone killing that same baby should also get the same charges.

She doesn't have to be bothered with telling the father if she knows whom it is. But she can show up q5 years later and demand back support for a kid he did know he had and he can never get that time back with his kid.

I guess you're OK with school shootings after all the kids are just a little older.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: Guss] #7611784
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Originally Posted by Guss
This abortion issue has to do if you belive in the cross of Jesus
Christ. If you do then you belive in his words if you don't your still
controlled by the Devil no inbetween ground.


You are wrong.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7611785
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Sgt, can you point to the text in our Constitution where you think abortion is a right?

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