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Re: Roe is gone [Re: yotetrapper30] #7612364
06/25/22 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by charles
When parents don't want to support kids, I don't want to support their kids either. Not opposed to abortions.



Well, ok. But what about the thousands of Americans that would love to support their kids, personally, but can't because of .gov regulations?


My neighbors who were unable to have their own children adopted 7 kids.

The infuriating irony is that there were numerous background checks and all sorts of red tape, hoops, and $$$ involved... Just to make sure my neighbors were suitable parents and nothing bad would happen to those kids.

The left's argument is that it's necessary to allow parents to murder their offspring now to prevent parents from murdering their offspring later.

Mike


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: charles] #7612369
06/25/22 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by charles
When parents don't want to support kids, I don't want to support their kids either. Not opposed to abortions.

When I was in college in the '60s, it was a very quiet topic. Pretty sure some guy friends of mine paid for a few.


I can use this ridiculous "logic" to justify all manner of irresponsible behavior...

Drunk driving: "My body, my choice. It's my right to get tanked and climb behind the wheel. It doesn't matter how many other innocent lives may be ended as a consequence."

Unsafe firearms handling: "I don't want to practice trigger discipline... Muzzle discipline... Etc... It's my right to do what I want with my guns. Who cares if an innocent third party dies? It's more convenient and takes less time to be reckless and irresponsible."

Life is about choices.

Choices have consequences.

YOU alone are responsible for your choices and the subsequent consequences.

This isn't a difficult concept for people to grasp when it comes to drunk driving or firearms handling... But when it comes to sex, it all goes out the window.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Roe is gone [Re: Mike in A-town] #7612375
06/25/22 11:05 AM
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I have an adopted brother and a sister.
When I was born as a first and only child my mother had complications with my birth.
Somehow we both lived through it but she was unable to have any more children.
My adopted sister is a gem, never thought I would have a family member smarter than me.
My adopted brother, well he could use an overhaul.
It is kinda like the old Tom Hanks view, life is like a box of chocolates deal I guess.

On the bright side Kamala Harris said Row versus Wade, who cares, as long as they get across the river and vote D.
(that is my attempt at humor today)

Zim

Re: Roe is gone [Re: danny clifton] #7612391
06/25/22 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
crack babies dont get get aborted. drug addicts dont have any money


This wont save most babies. girls/women will just go where it is legal

once again the supremes have failed to do their job. a fetus is a life separate from its mother. it has a right to life IMO

addicts, mentally retarded, and mentally ill people would not have babies if they were surgically sterilized.


I am quite surprised that the supremes even heard this. you would think leaving it up to the state would pacify the passionate on both sides. I guess not though.


Actually they did everything they could within the scope of their authority by overturning a decision that was made well outside of that same authority.

SCOTUS can only determine whether or not something brought before them complies with the text of the US Constitution. They cannot create out of whole cloth something that does not exist within the Constitution as Roe did.

If anything what this court did was a ground shattering decision to return to the rule of law.

As the US Constitution is silent on just what constitutes life I doubt they will ever offer such a life begins at conception opinion.

But as in Dredd Scott which ruled that slaves are not citizens and not entitled to Constitutional protection We the People can change that with an amendment to the Constitution as the 13th and 14th did for Dredd.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612411
06/25/22 12:34 PM
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The constitution does make a reference to children, its in the Preamble

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612417
06/25/22 12:40 PM
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True, but how do we define that term?


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612418
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Thank you Mitch Mconnell and all the other repubs this site has badmouth. You are solely responsible for the push of appointing the justices that over turned this awful ruling.

So once again thank you Mitch and the rest of your colleagues responsible.

PS Don't pay any attention to the ignorant people that call you names because you voted to allow them to "KEEP" their guns OR buy any one gun that is still for sale. Even tho you want to spend more on back ground checks that look at juvenile records that might prevent the next Uvalde shooting....

Re: Roe is gone [Re: jbyrd63] #7612422
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Thank you Mitch Mconnell and all the other repubs this site has badmouth. You are solely responsible for the push of appointing the justices that over turned this awful ruling.

So once again thank you Mitch and the rest of your colleagues responsible.

PS Don't pay any attention to the ignorant people that call you names because you voted to allow them to "KEEP" their guns OR buy any one gun that is still for sale. Even tho you want to spend more on back ground checks that look at juvenile records that might prevent the next Uvalde shooting....



If you want to play that game, you can thank Harry Reid for eliminating the filinuster for SCOTUS nominees. The turrle only held Garland's nomination for pure political expedience. You'll note he'll give in on everything this when he thinks he can get away with it.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612427
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Wasn't just Mitch that voted for that gun bill.... BUT it was MITCH that pushed the nomination thru ...
Tell me ANYTHING either side does that's not for some kind of political gain. That bunch both sides certainly don't "do things" for the people.

Still waiting on "how " that gun bill affected you and your guns?
ANYONE ???????

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Re: Roe is gone [Re: jbyrd63] #7612430
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Wasn't just Mitch that voted for that gun bill.... BUT it was MITCH that pushed the nomination thru ...
Tell me ANYTHING either side does that's not for some kind of political gain. That bunch both sides certainly don't "do things" for the people.

Still waiting on "how " that gun bill affected you and your guns?
ANYONE ???????


It affects my kids and grand kids right on when they can buy guns. It's a good thing they allready have AR 15s and hand guns. Had then before they were 10.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: jbyrd63] #7612434
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Wasn't just Mitch that voted for that gun bill.... BUT it was MITCH that pushed the nomination thru ...
Tell me ANYTHING either side does that's not for some kind of political gain. That bunch both sides certainly don't "do things" for the people.

Still waiting on "how " that gun bill affected you and your guns?
ANYONE ???????


Have you read, and do you understand, the red flag portion of that gun bill?

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612436
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Mitch McConnell is a Rino. Pure and simple.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: jbyrd63] #7612438
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Thank you Mitch Mconnell and all the other repubs this site has badmouth. You are solely responsible for the push of appointing the justices that over turned this awful ruling.

So once again thank you Mitch and the rest of your colleagues responsible.

PS Don't pay any attention to the ignorant people that call you names because you voted to allow them to "KEEP" their guns OR buy any one gun that is still for sale. Even tho you want to spend more on back ground checks that look at juvenile records that might prevent the next Uvalde shooting....

What you seem to fail to understand is that this "harmless" piecie of legislation will lead to another, that will lead to another. They all slowly erode your rights.

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612442
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Red flag laws are going to be a political prosecution tool.....remember they want to disarm the law abiding conservatives not the inner city gang bangers who are responsible for the majority of shootings.

Worth saying twice.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: jbyrd63] #7612444
06/25/22 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Wasn't just Mitch that voted for that gun bill.... BUT it was MITCH that pushed the nomination thru ...
Tell me ANYTHING either side does that's not for some kind of political gain. That bunch both sides certainly don't "do things" for the people.

Still waiting on "how " that gun bill affected you and your guns?
ANYONE ???????

As the so called leader of the republicans in the Senate, he gave the rest of the RINOs permission to draft and vote for that nonsense. Most of both houses of Congress dont go to the bathroom without permission of ltheir leadership in either party.so thats why Mitch gets all the blame..

Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612471
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The J6 prosecutions, the DOJ raids on journalists and former cabinet members and you think red flag won't be misused?


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: warrior] #7612475
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Originally Posted by warrior
The J6 prosecutions, the DOJ raids on journalists and former cabinet members and you think red flag won't be misused?


It will absolutely be used as a tool to disarm the political opposition.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7612476
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At what point do we have a lawful/God given right to oppose unconstitutional actions taken against us by using the appropriate actions to keep us free from those unconstitutional actions directed against us? The answer to this question may set us free or imprison us....



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Re: Roe is gone [Re: Marty] #7612487
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Originally Posted by Marty
At what point do we have a lawful/God given right to oppose unconstitutional actions taken against us by using the appropriate actions to keep us free from those unconstitutional actions directed against us? The answer to this question may set us free or imprison us....



About 18 months ago.


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Re: Roe is gone [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7612490
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Mitch McConnell is a Rino. Pure and simple.


Mitch McConnell, while not perfect and I disagree with him often, was a Republican long before most of y'all highjacked the party. Most of the new republican highjackers either didn't vote or were Democrats until they fell in love with Trump.

Anyone who uses the term Rino to disparage a lifelong Republican is just plain ignorant.


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