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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612205
06/25/22 02:11 AM
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Paul - itís a pretty long list. LOL. Actually, I was making (trying to make) a joke. Canít think of any one that needs to be dealt with. Thanks for thinking of my well being. smile


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612246
06/25/22 07:20 AM
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i would like to see more they are selling for is there a site ?

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: wissmiss] #7612253
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Thanks for keeping the trappers updated.

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612260
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Yes Wissmiss coming through once again with some insight as to not just how sale is going but what is behind those results.

No embellishment or paranoia. Just the straight goods as she sees it. Keep it up Wissmiss and there are lots of us who will deal with any detractors that may appear.

On the Canadian forum we used to have a guy called "Manitoba Bow Hunter" who used to give us some pretty good insight into taxidermy goods at the sales but he has not been on in a couple of years.

As they rightly say to the military "Thank you for your service".

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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7612269
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
i would like to see more they are selling for is there a site ?



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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612272
06/25/22 07:51 AM
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Only registered buyers can see how things are selling. Not sure FH reasoning

It is very boring - hitting the refresh button every so often. I can see what sold, for how much and the buyer number.

They are on page 6 of the beaver catalog. Larger sizes, better goods. I would estimate about 80-85% of the lots are selling. Prices donít look that bad. IMO


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612280
06/25/22 07:59 AM
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Thanks for your time.

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: crosspatch] #7612285
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Yes Wissmiss coming through once again with some insight as to not just how sale is going but what is behind those results.

No embellishment or paranoia. Just the straight goods as she sees it. Keep it up Wissmiss and there are lots of us who will deal with any detractors that may appear.

On the Canadian forum we used to have a guy called "Manitoba Bow Hunter" who used to give us some pretty good insight into taxidermy goods at the sales but he has not been on in a couple of years.

As they rightly say to the military "Thank you for your service".

He was the/a fur buyer for GFW Canada travelling in Manitoba.....so maybe a company policy he did not want to cross
but he still reads a open forum

Thanks again for the Tim Bits Nancy.
dang Canadian auto correct should read tidbits

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612322
06/25/22 09:19 AM
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We appreciate the updates Nancy.

A couple of general questions if you don't mind.

Since this is a buyers market, with more product available than demand, there is probably little incentive to exceed valuation. Is there any competative bidding going on above valuation? Does the FHA auction process allow bids below valuation? And if so, are they generally holding the line, or are they moving product below valuation prices?

Thanks for any insight you are comfortable providing.

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612346
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a lot of the reason fha has always been smaller in numbers because of their tight mouth dont know if they dont know the know how to do things if they dont want to be any bigger dont know i do know ive talked to a lot of guys over several years that would have done more with them if they would open up more what they were doing at the auctions been that way for a lot of years

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612360
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Wissmiss , can you tell me what lot 10021 and 10108 sold for ? thanks

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: wissmiss] #7612363
06/25/22 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Carl - your PM box is full. You should think about emptying it. $14.50.


OK, did a little house-keeping. Thanks Nancy! In the early sale those same beaver went for $17.50 Oh well. I think I was only offered $5 at K. Falls.


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612394
06/25/22 12:01 PM
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Walleye101 - here is some info about your questions.

Let me start by saying, Iím not glued to my iPad screen 12 hours a day watching the auction. Unless it is an item Iím interested in, I check in occasionally to see what is going on. Explaining how the online auction program works is a bit complicated and I wonít even attempt it. So what Iím going to say is generalized.

As far as competitive bidding, there is some. How much I donít know because Iím not watching the screen full time. It appears on the better raccoon there was a fair amount of competitive bidding. Not so much on the mid grades.

One extreme example of competitive bidding was on one lot, which happened to be r at her specialized. The value was $5.00. The lot sold for $51.00. This is the exception rather than the rule. I know this for a fact because I was involved in the bidding war. Unfortunately, I ran out of money before several other bidders. LOL

They are basically holding the line, within auction standards. The computer forces that. The computer isnít capable of thinking, like a live auctioneer. A live auctioneer can look at the description of a certain lot and say that $10.00 is a fair offer for those goods, even though the valuation is $20.00. And he will sell for the $10.00 offer. Iíve seen that any number of times in a live auction room.

The computer program says, Iím told this item is worth $20.00. Therefore I will not accept the $10.00 offer. Not to say that $10.00 offer wonít be accepted in the PT room. And as we all know, no one knows what goes on in the PT room except for the 2 people in there. LOL.

I mentioned ďauction standardsĒ. Unless the lot has a shippers limit on the valuation, there is always a bit of wiggle room, whether it is on line or a live auction. That standard is 10%. It is almost automatic. If the valuation is $20.00, a bid of $18.00 is acceptable and accepted. A bid of $16.00 is not. The on line program is set up the same way. The acceptable percent varies from species to species, depending on the market for that item.

So, FH is moving product below valuation. BUT the same thing would be happening with a live auctioneer.

The on line bidding program will NOT allow a fire sale.

Hopefully that answers your questions, if not let me know.

One last comment - if you want to see competitive bidding in the one line auction, wait until Monday. Bidding on the wolverine will be nuts.


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612408
06/25/22 12:26 PM
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One last comment - if you want to see competitive bidding in the one line auction, wait until Monday. Bidding on the wolverine will be nuts.


Why do you think bidding on Wolverine will be nuts? Cause thereís not many? Or is that what everyoneís looking for?

Once again thanks for all you updates and all you do

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612410
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Does anyone know when the accounts are updated to reflect the sold or bought back ? My beavers have nothing yet and I'm sure some have sold.

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612413
06/25/22 12:35 PM
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Iím assuming wolverine will be nuts because they were in March. In March, some sold for 3 times valuation, especially in the lower end goods.

Only so many being offered - less than 200. It is a speciality item that is in high demand in the tourist/craft trade.


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612414
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last auction (if I remember right) nothing was updated til it was all over


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612419
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It seems logical that they would do one big update when the sale is over. That will be Monday evening.


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Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612420
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Thanks Nancy for your very informative answers. Good to know.

Re: FHA sale begins today. [Re: trapperman222] #7612421
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Actually things were updated a couple of times during the last auction. And a few times after with PT sales. No updates so far and no idea how they will proceed this time though.

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