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definition of life? #7612302
06/25/22 08:39 AM
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how does the scientific community determine what is and isn't life?


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Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612307
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I would think it would be at the moment of cell division.

wait a minute...there ARE single cell animals...

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Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612309
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They Need to use the same standards for huma babies that they use when finding " life " on other planets.
To be fair... but


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Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612331
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Life on Mars is different than life on Earth.
Even life on Earth is different according to the laws. If a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer is charged with double homicide. If a pregnant woman wants to murder her own baby, it’s not murder, it’s her choice. If a pregnant woman wants to have an abortion and the father of the child doesn’t, he has no say in the matter. But, if the woman wants to keep the baby and the father doesn’t then he has to pay child support for the next 18 years.

The scientific community determines life for whatever and whenever it fits their agenda.

Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612468
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Life is something that is alive. It's common sense. My only question is regarding viruses. They are not cellular in form so are the alive?


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Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612473
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Common sense on this is to allow human baby abortions up to a certain point....maybe 2 months or something similar. Not a perfect solution but what is? The two dug in sides would never agree to that thou so it will remain a war....yes, we are at war.



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Originally Posted by Marty
Common sense on this is to allow human baby abortions up to a certain point....maybe 2 months or something similar. Not a perfect solution but what is? The two dug in sides would never agree to that thou so it will remain a war....yes, we are at war.



Sounds like common sense gun control to me. Glad to see who all thinks killing babies and restricting guns is acceptable. Always nice to know who has judgment you can and can't. trust. If I can't trust your judgment I can't trust you at all.

Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612495
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Actually, a federal law like I describe would outlaw post 8 week abortions. As it is now late term abortion is and will remain legal depending on state law. How is that working out for you?



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Originally Posted by Marty
Actually, a federal law like I describe would outlaw post 8 week abortions. As it is now late term abortion is and will remain legal depending on state law. How is that working out for you?



I don't like any abortion. I also don't like other things pushed I'm Democrat crap holes. I can't do a thing about either. The feds have no business picking an arbitrary time line on when it's OK to kill someone period. Murder is murder. It's wrong to murder the innocent.

Amazing those all for cutting babies out of their mothers think it's wrong to kill a murders and child molesters. No those they want to save and fight for.

Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7612512
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Actually the federal court is allowing abortions with the roe decision. Big corps will pay for people to go to states for late term abortions...

You are quoting me and making some outrageous statements that by quoting me one would believe apply to me. I think that is very bad personal judgement. Please leave me out of your far flung conclusions that appear to be applying to me.



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Originally Posted by Marty
Actually the federal court is allowing abortions with the roe decision. Big corps will pay for people to go to states for late term abortions...

You are quoting me and making some outrageous statements that by quoting me one would believe apply to me. I think that is very bad personal judgement. Please leave me out of your far flung conclusions that appear to be applying to me.


Again if no one steps up and called it murder at the federal level there is nothing I can do about that. But murder is murder. Not it's only murder after 8 week. 12 week, 39 weeks 60 months.

So business will pay for their employees t o go to other states to kill their babies. Poor moral decision but good for business. Less time off work for the employees and much cheaper for the insurance companies.

Sorry if you think my statement refer to you on everything after the quote. Anyone with 2 brain cells can read what you wrote and see if it applies to you or not. But I'm just guessing here but since you tend to think killing babies tell 8 weeks Is acceptable I'm guessing you hang out with people that deduction ability may be lacking in.

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Actually when you quote someone what you say after the quote would be infered to apply to the person quoted.



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If you can answer this one...for extra credit:

What is a woman?


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Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7613355
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Well said Wanna Be.

Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7613373
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PF, sounds too me like you are judging Marty. I believe the Bible says let God be the judge. God gave all of us free will. Some will be saved, some won’t. Less of me more of God.


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Re: definition of life? [Re: foxkidd44] #7613391
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Untill they accept God's standard as the standard of truth which sets the standard of all of life, they will all have their own opinions, studies, and research of what constitutes as truth which is subject to moral decline of humanity.

In this culture, people believe that morality changes from age to age and culture to culture. Society decides what is right and wrong. Under this reasoning, sin depends on the circumstances of the moment. Through the media and entertainment, the world promotes quite a different level of moral acceptability than God's standards, illustrating Proverbs 14:12: “There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death.”

What happens to our sense of sin when God's standards seem no longer to be valid? For an answer, all we need to do is take a look at our global society—its violence, sexual immorality, greed, stealing, and lying resulting in mass deaths, horrible diseases, rampant fraud, massive distrust, and misery. Why is it like this? “Where there is no revelation [divine vision], the people cast off restraint; but happy is he who keeps the law” (Proverbs 29:18). This is why the standard of right and wrong can only come from one who is perfect—our Creator, the Almighty God.

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