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Catholic Pope advocates gun control #7613600
06/26/22 11:40 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/vatican-says-pro-life-activists-033725634.html

So does that mean the catholic church in the U.S. is now required to pay income tax? No other preacher is allowed to speak about politics from the pulpit without losing tax exemption.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613604
06/26/22 11:50 PM
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No it means that idiot don't know his head from a hole in the ground.


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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613606
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Clergy can voice THEIR political opinion. They CANNOT call their congregation to action on their political opinion.

Example

Preacher says he doesn't like ice cream joey. no problem.

Preacher gives sermon on why anyone in HIS congregation should not vote for ice cream joey. Problem.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: bowhunter27295] #7613609
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Clergy can voice THEIR political opinion. They CANNOT call their congregation to action on their political opinion.

Example

Preacher says he doesn't like ice cream joey. no problem.

Preacher gives sermon on why anyone in HIS congregation should not vote for ice cream joey. Problem.


Only if you're white and Southern Baptist.

If you're a POC and a CME you can have the buses in the parking lot and drive them to the polls on Sunday.


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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613612
06/27/22 12:01 AM
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I'm sure he likes his Swiss security and high walls. Funny he didn't like wals when Trump.wanted one or guns in the people's hands. I believe this is the worst pope in my lifetime.

Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: Providence Farm] #7613628
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I'm sure he likes his Swiss security and high walls. Funny he didn't like wals when Trump.wanted one or guns in the people's hands. I believe this is the worst pope in my lifetime.

Not even close. He should be exposed to what he's allowed to happen...

Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613642
06/27/22 05:20 AM
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Nothing surprises me with that pope.


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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613651
06/27/22 05:49 AM
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Bowhunter he is calling them to action.

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Vatican Says 'Pro Life' Activists Must Fight For Gun Control


Taxing the Catholic church here in the U.S. wouldn't be as lucrative as taxing the Vatican but would still be a nice windfall.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613659
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That'll likely never happen since Poopypants pretends to be Catholic.


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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613661
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Maybe he should come up with his policy concerning the many misdeeds of the clergy within the church .

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Originally Posted by w side rd 151
Maybe he should come up with his policy concerning the many misdeeds of the clergy within the church .

I'm guessing he has been involved right along with the others. All men have the same desires.


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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613668
06/27/22 06:45 AM
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Gary. I don't think all men desire to rape a sodomize boys.


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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613672
06/27/22 07:01 AM
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Perhaps this Pope, who the media paints in what theology calls a latitude/liberal stance (not a political term but rather taking a "wide" stance on the majority consensus throughout Christian history) is simply advocating for human life? That make sense to a believer because believers are called to treasure the sanctity of what God creates - most certainly human life - as we watch so many threaten or actually kill human life.

To "take" a life, is just that. Taking life, which doesn't belong to you. It is God's.

The Apostle Paul's letter to the believers in Philippi was exactly this theme.
The Gospel Hope is to present oneself humbly as Christ did for us.

For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ,
whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.
For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ
(Phil 3:18–20).

Suffering is assured in this life, wrote the Apostles, most certainly if you are a follower of Christ in a world that strides to the beat of its own drum.
The Pharisees taught the Law of blessings and cursing from Lev 26 & Deut 28 and couldn't envision any other lifestyle, so they charged Paul with being a false teacher.
But Paul wasn't a false teacher and the Gospel Hope remains the same today as it was then....
The Hope for the follower of Christ is a later embodied resurrection upon a New Earth with Christ Jesus.
Life to come is the short phrase.

Maybe that's the Pope's teaching? I pray that's his heart.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613677
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I am 70 with a Catholic background. Catholic grade school and high school. This Pope has overturned many of the things I was taught. As far as I'm concerned this Pope is not Catholic and I won't return until he is gone. As far as paying taxes I think that if the Church takes tax money they should also pay into it. Catholic Social Services is a huge recipient of tax money to support illegal aliens. In my opinion, that is not right. The Catholic Church, like many others, is all about money and power.

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Originally Posted by Mark June
Perhaps this Pope, who the media paints in what theology calls a latitude/liberal stance (not a political term but rather taking a "wide" stance on the majority consensus throughout Christian history) is simply advocating for human life? That make sense to a believer because believers are called to treasure the sanctity of what God creates - most certainly human life - as we watch so many threaten or actually kill human life.

To "take" a life, is just that. Taking life, which doesn't belong to you. It is God's.

The Apostle Paul's letter to the believers in Philippi was exactly this theme.
The Gospel Hope is to present oneself humbly as Christ did for us.

For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ,
whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.
For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ
(Phil 3:18–20).

Suffering is assured in this life, wrote the Apostles, most certainly if you are a follower of Christ in a world that strides to the beat of its own drum.
The Pharisees taught the Law of blessings and cursing from Lev 26 & Deut 28 and couldn't envision any other lifestyle, so they charged Paul with being a false teacher.
But Paul wasn't a false teacher and the Gospel Hope remains the same today as it was then....
The Hope for the follower of Christ is a later embodied resurrection upon a New Earth with Christ Jesus.
Life to come is the short phrase.

Maybe that's the Pope's teaching? I pray that's his heart.

Blessings,
Mark

I respect your giving him the benefit of doubt. But a 5sec search on his other stances should be
e all it takes to wipe that curiosity away quickly. He is often far from the biblical stance in his own.

Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613681
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I understand your thought PM, but as believers we're called to edify one another and let God judge the hearts of others.

Is this Pope a liberal theologian?
My opinion is "sure is."
Is his leadership unrighteous?
That's a branch I won't climb out on.

The Roman Catholics are brothers and sisters to all Christ followers....
so yes, they get the benefit on my doubt.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613686
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Mark are u saying supporting gun control is the Christian thing to do?

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Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613704
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Sure sounds like thats what he is saying.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Catholic Pope advocates gun control [Re: danny clifton] #7613708
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What is the verse that tells us to edify false teachers and false doctrine?

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