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Is it the lure or the location? #761401
06/20/08 02:14 PM
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Just trying to get some feedback on if trappers feel one has the power to over rule the other. Meaning: If you are on location, will a mediocre lure still perform as good as a great one? Or will the best of lures really draw animals from a great distance like lure makers claim they will? What are your thoughts?

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: whitfield] #761409
06/20/08 02:21 PM
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Location Location Location, without a doubt.

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: ] #761410
06/20/08 02:23 PM
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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: BlueRidgeTrapper] #761418
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i say location but know some dang fine trappers that would disagree

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: ] #761423
06/20/08 02:33 PM
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Location is most important IMO, but you need some good lure to make them work your set.

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Ricky Cox] #761427
06/20/08 02:34 PM
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No need to choose one over the other. Cover them both and you'll be better off.


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: BlueRidgeTrapper] #761430
06/20/08 02:35 PM
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location is the main thing to me.

a good location w/ a mediocre bait/lure, will produce mediocre catches.

a good location w/ a really good bait/lure, will burn em up!

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: RockyII] #761434
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If I was a lure maker, I would say lure. If I wrote trapping articles, I would say location.


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: TN_Trapper] #761436
06/20/08 02:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: TN_Trapper
If I was a lure maker, I would say lure. If I wrote trapping articles, I would say location.


Have you ever been in politics? lol


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: RockyII] #761440
06/20/08 02:40 PM
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ricky cox took the words right out of my mouth.


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: whitfield] #761456
06/20/08 03:02 PM
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My experience strongly suggests that "location" is the key operative, with stand alone identity, independent of lure quality (mediocre, or a great one - however that gradient is measured?) The greatest distance any given lure can be operative and effective is if a given animal's olfactory senses are within the boundary of detection, as the the intensity of the wind may influence its compass. Any sniffing organ has limits.

The "lure" component integrated into a set, no matter the status of its acclaimed virtues, is an aloof concept, and will live on in myth in the hearts and minds of many who put it on the pedestal reserved for magic - an illusion.

Any lure, bait or stinkum carefully applied at a set has merit. That is a given. However, think about this in terms of the set-lure/location quotient that may help to analyze an answer to your question. For example: A well made dirt hole for a canine of choice, will and can, function and produce without a speck of lure or bait when located within the perimeter of "location." That is a given, too.

So, with that said, your way of thinking may have just been stimulated. Others will provide different interpretations contrary to mine, but you will ultimately have to answer the question for yourself.

Jonathan


Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Jonathan] #761458
06/20/08 03:05 PM
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Ricky Cox wrote...Location is most important IMO, but you need some good lure to make them work your set.

Well said Ricky! Ace

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Asa Lenon] #761467
06/20/08 03:18 PM
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LOCATION I very seldom even use lures just blind sets


Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Kirk] #761483
06/20/08 03:36 PM
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Well it is definetly location with a "blind set" man!

Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: whitfield] #761491
06/20/08 03:41 PM
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90% Location
10% Lure


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: whitfield] #761494
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Blind sets alone miss ALOT of animals! One needs to take advantage of ALL the tools in the box!
Troy


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Blackdog] #761515
06/20/08 03:58 PM
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Troy, That comment is right on location for the discriminating, experienced and flexible trapper. Man cannot live on blind sets alone, he needs lured sets to compliment the spreads between the slices of effort in order for a complete trapper's sandwich to taste the best it possibly can.

Jonathan


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Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Jonathan] #761523
06/20/08 04:06 PM
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Good lure is not a major expense. Location can be learned with experience and even spead up with the proper mentor.

Why not use the best of both! \:\)


"FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!"
Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Jonathan] #761526
06/20/08 04:10 PM
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If the critter isn't where the set is or can't smell the odors of the set, it doesn't matter what the lure is, it ain't gonna work.

If the set is where the critter is and it's not interested in the lure you presented, then the lure does matter.

Gotta have the set in the right place, then you have to have a lure that will make it work the set.



Re: Is it the lure or the location? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #761762
06/20/08 08:08 PM
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If a given location isnt quite what you want for a certain set up. You can move away from said areas and bait and thus the name lure the animal in a area better set up for what you are after. Like location being in a black berry brambles and you want them just about 10 to 20 ft out of brambles. Thus lure and bait. Location being the number 1 criteria 2nd lure and bait to put them where it best suits you.



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