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Carry pistol ( optics)for bad eye sight #7615044
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Freind is trying to get there first hand gun for carry and home defense. She loves my sig p320 and similar sized handguns ,hates them little dinky things. Problem is she don't have the best eye sight for iorns. Would a reflex sight or something be a good idea or ?

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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615049
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Taurus Judge. .410 buck shot.


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615055
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I have a p320 with a romeo zero on it perhaps that's a set up that would work.??


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615057
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XS big dot sights

Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615058
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Reflex is good and fast once trained to pick them up.

Problem is they don't naturally fall to the eye as easily as irons do. You have to get the draw stroke down pat so it does fall to the eye.

Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615072
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What are sights on a handgun? - find one that is a good "natural " pointer --- different for each person.

Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615074
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For a self defense carry gun, donít use sights. She needs to learn to draw, point, and shoot accurately enough to hit a body sized target at 20 feet with no sights, in about three seconds. If you canít do that there is no point in carrying. In a self defense situation you wonít have time to line up sights and carefully aim. What she needs to do is pick a gun that feels good in her hand and send 1000 rounds down range.


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615090
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Serbu supper shorty should work. Not to small packets a punch

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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Bob] #7615148
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Originally Posted by Bob
For a self defense carry gun, donít use sights. She needs to learn to draw, point, and shoot accurately enough to hit a body sized target at 20 feet with no sights, in about three seconds. If you canít do that there is no point in carrying. In a self defense situation you wonít have time to line up sights and carefully aim. What she needs to do is pick a gun that feels good in her hand and send 1000 rounds down range.


This is about spot on...


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615161
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Is a laser an option?

Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615164
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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Bob] #7615171
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Originally Posted by Bob
For a self defense carry gun, donít use sights. She needs to learn to draw, point, and shoot accurately enough to hit a body sized target at 20 feet with no sights, in about three seconds. If you canít do that there is no point in carrying. In a self defense situation you wonít have time to line up sights and carefully aim. What she needs to do is pick a gun that feels good in her hand and send 1000 rounds down range.


Well the deal is it's not just a carry piece she also wants to be able hit what she wants. Like something smaller then a torso size target , feral dog,raccoon in the trash can type of stuff. She's really admit about being able to put round where she wants ( you can probably blame me for that one lol) I taught her the basic when I first showed he how to shoot a pistol. A small torso target isn't really hard for her at all , and I'm super confident she can pass in one of those massive qual targets I see being used ( heck the one I was having her shoot was half the size) beyond Hitting something like a water bottle however. Well...


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: k snow] #7615172
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Originally Posted by k snow
Is a laser an option?


Possibly


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Scout1] #7615177
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Originally Posted by Scout1
Taurus Judge. .410 buck shot.

She actually really does want one grin nice fella at the range let her shoot his with a load of buckshot and haven't heard the end of it yet laugh

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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615184
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The small red dot sights that many slides are milled for today are game changers, I put one on my Glock 17 to see if I would like them or not and while there is a training curve to get to where you instantly pick up the dot as Warrior pointed out they greatly improve your effective range with the handgun. I am able to consistently hit an 8 inch steel plate at 100 yards with mine whereas before with the factory sights it was very difficult because the sights covered and area over a foot wide at 100 yards. At close range my split times really didn't change, I think mainly because I was only referencing my front sight rather than getting a true sight picture, but from 25 yards out the dot sight is also faster than irons.

Don't use one of the mounts that replace the rear sight, get a slide that is milled for a RDS as the ones that replace the rear sight put the RDS to high and make them more difficult to use, plus most of the holsters for handguns with a RDS are designed around those mounted on a milled slide.

Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615224
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Carry optics is growing Fast and they are putting them on even budget guns these days

I have a Ruger MKIII with a Vortex Venom and can hit steel plates at 100 yards off hand , it is a huge game changer , irons I might hit 2 in 10 and dot I am more like 9 of 10 rounds.

are you trying to make one gun to do it all or a carry gun for personal protection that might also take some close targets ?

I know the Red dots are a game changer for distance and pistols , that said I am still carrying all irons I am running in Limited for the practice , because I am not going to carry a half magazine of ammo in production.

good red dots get into some money and require you keep up on battery changes so if this is going to be a gun that gets loaded holstered and forgotten about till it is needed I wouldn't go optic
but if she is willing to change a battery every couple months and keep the lenses clean it can add range.

red dots also make a larger package so if your trying to conceal it that can be a factor ,easier to carry the more often it gets carried and the less time left at home.

lots of things to weight out

think about all the targets she might want to shoot
and rank them in order of importance and assign them a likely max distance

my most carried gun is a Ruger LC9 , for me it pocket carries very easily it is 8 round if I need it , actual uses have been a few raccoons , never drawn it in protection , I try to avoid situations where I would need to but it is there if I need it. expected range of use with that I expect to be under 30 feet.

my second most carried gun is a G19 it takes a touch more planning to wear than just a gun in a pocket holster and that is why it gets carried less.

she , might be best served with a 2 gun approach

a small daily carry for those close personal defense issues and a back door or bedroom rifle or shot gun at home for more around the yard targets or bump in the night stuff

everyone shoots a bigger gun better than a little bitty , but will she carry it is the thing

no question a C class shooter with a PCC is running on par for a master times on the same stages so the old saying you use a pistol to fight your way to your rifle is fairly true , then again if you were expecting trouble you would bring a rifle , help with rifles or not go.

some in between guns like the G19mos and G45mos , G48mos bring the size down a bit while making them optics ready and still very shoot-able about everyone has a competitor to these this just simplifies approximate size
the P365xl optics ready might be something to look at also it is worth finding a range and going and renting all the serious options.

the Judge has extremely little practical use it weighs a fair amount , it is big , the round count is low , it spreads that buck shot fast and it is no better than a 45acp with 5 rounds if loaded with 45lc
so it is big heavy had very limited range with any type of shot , sends that shot everywhere you don't want
but hey you sure shouldn't need an optic for it shooting any type of shot

any rifle or shotgun for the house and things that go bump in the night should have a strong mounted white light

sit down with her and think about what her potential targets are and their importance


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Re: Carry pistol for bad eye sight [Re: Wolfdog91] #7615227
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by Scout1
Taurus Judge. .410 buck shot.

She actually really does want one grin nice fella at the range let her shoot his with a load of buckshot and haven't heard the end of it yet laugh

Do you like her???
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper

Buy her one...be the Hero-knight

it's 2022 no matter how much you like her you can plunk down the cash but unless she is taking your last name and a ring she fills out her own 4473


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