The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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The last larger town in Luhansk Oblast (province) Ukraine, Lysychansk, has fallen to the Rus and their confederates. How many UAF prisoners were taken in the encirclement and taking the city hasn't been reported yet. Luhansk (also know as the "Lugansk People's Republic" by a sizable portion of the population) is one of the 2 Ukie provinces that make up the "Donbas" region. The UAF's next major stand will probably be in a line of 4 almost continuous urban areas about 30+ miles west of Lysychansk anchored by Slayansk-Kramatorsk in the north. These cities are in the Donesk Oblast, the other "Donbas" province. The Rus may try an end run behind the Slayansk-Kramatorsk line coming north from the city of Donesk (a million+) if they can defeat the UAF stronghold just north of there that has been the thorn in the city of Donetsk side (the capital of the "Donetsk People's Republic") for the last 8 years, loping shells into the city when they wanted. The countryside north and west of Donetsk city is more open than the land in Lugansk province has been, less forest and fewer hills. The government of the "DPR" released casualties numbers for the first half of 2022 (Jan 1 to July 1-- this war didn't start Feb 24 for them): Military- 2,247 killed, 9,453 wounded. Civilian- 687 killed, 2,228 wounded. I don't agree with everything this retired U.S. Marine officer says in this piece, but he does describe what the current fighting "meatgrinder" is doing to the UAF. Doesn't really matter how many western "wonder weapons" are pumped into Ukie land if their people don't have the time to train on them or even find enough warm bodies to field them. Without direct boots-on-the-ground U.S./NATO kinetic action, the tide is not going to turn for the UAF in at least the next few months or longer. Just too many losses. But reality is only an option, not actually a given, for the combined assembly of DC goofs. They have no problem fighting to the last Ukrainian... https://mwi.usma.edu/time-is-not-on-kyivs-side-training-weapons-and-attrition-in-ukraine/Another interesting piece from the American Conservative that replacing the arms we've sent to Ukraine may not be quite that easy... https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-will-the-us-rearm-after-ukraine/
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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the nato response has been fubar. biden has failed again..but that is nothing new.
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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Marty- Didn't the U.S. government promise another 800+ million of weapons for the UAF as of yesterday? What's the total up to by now, about 60 billion spent or promised...?
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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The usa has given too much yet not enough. It seems to be complicated...I heard today europe will not be the same until uke defeats russia......I guess europe will never be the same again.
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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Our military and national security leaders who handled the efficient withdrawal from afgan and left many $$$$billions of weapons for our enemies said russia was done for months ago...how special they are. God help us all.
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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The usa has given too much yet not enough. It seems to be complicated...I heard today europe will not be the same until uke defeats russia......I guess europe will never be the same again. I would guess at this point that anything we ship over there is going to end up in Russian hands before very long. Russkies are going to be picking up a lot of American hardware that's "never been fired and only dropped once." Mike
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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It's spelled Luhansk. I believe anyway. It depends from what language its being translated out of into English. From Ukrainian, its "Luhansk", if its coming out of Russian, its "Lugansk". Just like the city, in Ukrainian its "Lysychansk", in Russian its "Lisichansk". Or something like that...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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How long before Ukraine uses the “lethal aid” we’ve been providing them to strike Russian territory? Seems likely to happen, and likely to result in an escalation in the conflict. NATO and the EU seem to be positioning themselves for an escalation, while providing the means to escalate to Ukraine.
My gut feeling is that, the current conflict is going to expand beyond Ukraine, and will not be confined to the European continent.
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Re: The UAF no longer operational in Lugansk province
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Ukraine will keep fighting and the boys will keep dying as long as the U.S keeps sending over Billions to enrich the Ukrainian actors pretending to be in chargge. X 2
Eh...wot?
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