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#4 jumps for beaver #7598075
06/04/22 02:02 PM
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I have a couple dozen very strong #4 jumps. Are they improved any by cutting down the pan edge so it will fall further down. They donít have factory pans. The PIT pans come in contact with top of spring making the space between pan and jaws smaller. Iíve seen old beaver traps with very small pans and wondered if this might be their thinking.

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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7598209
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I have also seen several #4 jumps with cut down pans...I think it is/was done more to center beaver feet between the trap jaws. Funny thing is I havenít seen many #14 jumps with cut down pans.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: MChewk] #7598241
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Many years back I would cut down the pans all of my number 14 jump traps. I only have a few left and don't use them much anymore


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7598278
06/04/22 08:53 PM
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I've got about 50 No.4 jumps,I wouldn't cut the pans down if somebody paid me.PIT PANs on them?All the better.Don't monkey with them


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7598294
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So Buck, you donít have any problems trapping beaver with you PIT panned 4ís?

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7598358
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No.I've never had the problems others have claimed to have using jumps using stock pans either..Those PIT PANS are a big improvement tho over the stock pans.When I first started out I used No.4 Victor longsprings and lost more beaver than I held,primarily hind foot catches.Other guys love them,but that was my experience with them.Many guys cuss the jumps out,and if you compare them to the modern coil springs they are archaic,you can't replace the springs,and the pans are sloppy.But thru the years I caught a impressive amount of beaver in them.

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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7598598
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The therory behind smaller pans versus larger pans on beaver traps Is you get less toe catches with the smaller pans. You may also get more misses with small pans but In therory you get less sprung traps along with those misses..
But with the use of the larger jaw spreads on some beaver traps the small pan idea Is a mote point. But when working with the smaller jaw spreads the smaller pan Is something to take Into consideration.


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7601858
06/10/22 01:36 AM
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Back in the 80s I bought a dozen 4 jumps. I was so unimpressed with them I threw the entire dozen into the Yakima rivet and stuck with my long springs.


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: waggler] #7602002
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Originally Posted by waggler
Back in the 80s I bought a dozen 4 jumps. I was so unimpressed with them I threw the entire dozen into the Yakima rivet and stuck with my long springs.


I had the same type experience with them trying to catch beavers. I told dad about it, and his response was enough of them would make a good boat anchor.



Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7602375
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Not the best beaver foothold for sure,but if you choose the right placement they work.
Back in the day I used them in certain spots when I was running out of #4dls.

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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7602774
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I bought Bridger #5 for beaver.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7602788
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That will work.


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: Boco] #7602860
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Originally Posted by Boco
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Not the best beaver foothold for sure,but if you choose the right placement they work.
Back in the day I used them in certain spots when I was running out of #4dls.

Yup, I used to use them in any place where I was worried about someone stealing my traps. Caught quite a few beaver in them, but far preferred dbls. They are a directional trap, and don't work well where the beaver may be coming from either direction. On something like a castor mound set where the beaver should be coming a certian direction they worked fine.

Oh and they are a lot more of a pain to set when standing in knee deep water and mud than most other traps.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7602993
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I found they work better for me if I dig a little deeper trap bed


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7619299
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I have a few #3 and #4 B and L jumps and do like them.

There are better beaver traps, to be sure.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: waggler] #7626797
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Originally Posted by waggler
Back in the 80s I bought a dozen 4 jumps. I was so unimpressed with them I threw the entire dozen into the Yakima rivet and stuck with my long springs.

Ditto! Sprung traps with nothing in them was my most usual experience.


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7626870
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I have a buddy that has been a big 14 jump fan. I took him trapping with my 7.5 CDRs vs the 14s and he conceded defeat.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7626953
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I still use the 14s they are great beaver traps.


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7626990
07/15/22 05:59 AM
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I wish we could still use the 14's here.Great trap.I knew a guy that had 150 of them when the DNR outlawed them.Needless to say he wasn't very happy.


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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #7627283
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
I wish we could still use the 14's here.Great trap.I knew a guy that had 150 of them when the DNR outlawed them.Needless to say he wasn't very happy.

Did they outlaw jump traps or all footholds?

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