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Here's an idea. How about teachers, who by the way are not psychiatrist, not trained social workers, not safety experts, just do there job and teach a non biased education to the kids. Leave everything else alone.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Here's an idea. How about teachers, who by the way are not psychiatrist, not trained social workers, not safety experts, just do there job and teach a non biased education to the kids. Leave everything else alone. It's not really the teachers. It's the unions that run the curriculum.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Here's an idea. How about teachers, who by the way are not psychiatrist, not trained social workers, not safety experts, just do there job and teach a non biased education to the kids. Leave everything else alone. It's not really the teachers. It's the unions that run the curriculum. If your a teacher your in the Union, if over 90% voted for this, it's the Teachers.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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people can home school all they want to and that is probably a great idea but they and their kids will still have to deal with the results of the public education system every day.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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When I was in school we brought our own guns. Usually out in the parking lot in a vehicle. The male teachers did too and I am sure a few females. Principals were men and straightened out kids with out law enforcement. When the cops hide during a school shooting what good are they anyway? The answer at least partly, puts an age limit of 21 on all video game purchases and holding kids accountable for their actions. Remember the "board" of education? If mom or dad whines cause little johnny got touched up then expel him from ALL public school and let mom and dad worry about educating him. retarded kids and mentally ill kids need to have their own school's again. Putting them all in the same class room is NOT working
Video games are a bigger threat to kids health than alcohol and tobacco by far
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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P.S. there were no school shootings
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Yeppers, that's a development from the "Game Boy", and Video Generation.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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P.S. there were no school shootings X1000!
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Yeppers, that's a development from the "Game Boy", and Video Generation. Internet and social media has just as much negative effect as video games.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Internet and social media doesnt have them playing real looking games where they steal cars, pick up hookers, murder and burn. for hours on end
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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When I was in school we brought our own guns. Usually out in the parking lot in a vehicle. The male teachers did too and I am sure a few females. Principals were men and straightened out kids with out law enforcement. When the cops hide during a school shooting what good are they anyway? The answer at least partly, puts an age limit of 21 on all video game purchases and holding kids accountable for their actions. Remember the "board" of education? If mom or dad whines cause little johnny got touched up then expel him from ALL public school and let mom and dad worry about educating him. retarded kids and mentally ill kids need to have their own school's again. Putting them all in the same class room is NOT working
Video games are a bigger threat to kids health than alcohol and tobacco by far I would include Academia.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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It seems like they're digging in their heels in hopes the Democrats unilaterally decide to confiscate the four hundred million or so guns estimated to be in the country. Why not, they've thrown every other norm out the window. Well, what sense does it make that Teachers would vote to not keep kids safe? To me it proves that they truly don't care about kids safety, just their agenda. That tells the tale for me. I'm not a fan of coming up with laws when the parents and principals should handle things proper. But, it's clear that they aren't so I agree with Danny, put a age restriction on video games, same as movies. There are things in those games youngins shouldn't be seeing.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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It seems like they're digging in their heels in hopes the Democrats unilaterally decide to confiscate the four hundred million or so guns estimated to be in the country. Why not, they've thrown every other norm out the window. Well, what sense does it make that Teachers would vote to not keep kids safe? To me it proves that they truly don't care about kids safety, just their agenda. That tells the tale for me. I'm not a fan of coming up with laws when the parents and principals should handle things proper. But, it's clear that they aren't so I agree with Danny, put a age restriction on video games, same as movies. There are things in those games youngins shouldn't be seeing. It makes no sense as a stopgap measure. The NEA is a leftist organization pushing a leftist agenda. They've held American kids hostage for decades.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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You folks have short memories if you think L.E. can be depended on in a school shooting.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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It's all about protecting the kids. And seriously some believe it.....I even saw a post were someone believed Gates was buying land in ND for the kids in Africa also. Yep, good grief!!
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You folks have short memories if you think L.E. can be depended on in a school shooting. It's not that we don't know that, but in the schools, what else is there with a better chance? You suggesting we leave it to the teachers?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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teachers and students. who ever wants to be armed. shall not be infringed
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Internet and social media doesnt have them playing real looking games where they steal cars, pick up hookers, murder and burn. for hours on end no -- social media is much worse than that.
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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teachers and students. who ever wants to be armed. shall not be infringed Well, we know that most teachers hate guns so, how are they a better shot at protecting kids then cops?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Catch22 , why wasn't school murder a fun game to play 50 years ago? dont need most teachers or students either one to have a shotgun in their vehicle. one or two is enough. locking doors and making gun free zones is like pour gas on a house fire
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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There was a whole police force in Uvalde refusing to act or let anybody else react. Police presence aint working. Armed teachers and students DID work
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Point is someone in the school should be armed. Danny, not many school boards are going to allow armed students and you know it. Some would allow armed teachers. More would allow armed cops... or rent-a-cops, veterans, etc. From reading the original article, it sounds as though the union is willing to sacrifice the safety of the students so that a few minorities won't feel harassed by there being a police presence in the school.
If a school doesn't want a police presence, why not hire a couple combat veterans to act as plain clothes security?
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Its not up to the school board. people have a RIGHT to be armed
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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quit asking permission from people you dont even know
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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I get what you're saying. But I wouldn't want to be the 17 year old kid who had a shotgun on his back seat that had a liberal teacher walk by and see it. You know he would be expelled, likely arrested. The SCOTUS may well find it unconstitutional, but who has the kind of money to take a case all the way up to the SCOTUS?
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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If some talking head on tv bureaucrat wants to claim everyday honest people owning firearms is the reason schools are being shot up WHY WHY WHY WHY would you ask that idiots permission to do anything????????????????????????????????????????
P.S. if the kid aint smart enough to keep his gun out of sight he aint smart enough that mom and dad ought to let him have it
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Re: largest teacher union votes to end school policing
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Unions have ways of forcing union members to vote the way the union wants them to vote.
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TV shows and movies teach kids how to be killers along with video games and social media.
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Unions have ways of forcing union members to vote the way the union wants them to vote. No one holds a gun to their head to "make" them vote a certain way. The members are just dumb enough to listens to them. At least they used to be. I used to get a lot of hate for voting conservative. There are still a few vote blue no matter what guys at but few, and most ignore the union recommended people they recommend voting for.
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Unions are nothing but organized crime. Peed away all the pension money and now big d is bailing them out. There aint nothing good about gangster run unions
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PS they are ALL run by gangsters every last one
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Catch22 , why wasn't school murder a fun game to play 50 years ago? dont need most teachers or students either one to have a shotgun in their vehicle. one or two is enough. locking doors and making gun free zones is like pour gas on a house fire Danny, I agree with everything you have said. But, in the times we're in what else can be done. I think having cops in schools is ridiculous but what else is there? We used to take guns to school, I was even ask to bring guns into the school to show teachers and once to give a presentation on percussion ML's. Walked right through the front door, no problem. All the kids who hunted and trapped had guns visible on a gun rack in their trucks. To me it's proof that it's the environment these kids are raised in now, that's the problem. We didn't have school shootings back then and we had plenty of guns.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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P.S. there were no school shootings Back when I was in school we might have had some disagreements that ended up in a fist fight and some cut lips or black eyes, but killing someone you didn't like with a gun or even a knife was never on the table. Some of us had gun racks in the back of our beat up pickups with a shotgun or rifle because it was grouse, pheasant, duck, or deer season. We were going hunting after school. Just about all of my friends carried jack knives in their pockets. That was standard procedure back then. Our sportsman's club sponsors 4 different schools in trap shooting through our charitable gambling. We feel this is a step in the right direction when it comes to safety, ownership, and integrity regarding firearms. We've been doing this for about 5 years now. There has never been any accidents in that time. The interest among the students has been growing every year.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Some of us had gun racks in the back of our beat up pickups with a shotgun or rifle because it was grouse, pheasant, duck, or deer season. We were going hunting after school.
Just about all of my friends carried jack knives in their pockets. That was standard procedure back then. Had plenty of nuts in those days. Even nuts know that when somebody will likely shoot back and probably more than one somebody, shooting up a school is a real bad idea.
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