Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Based off what you posted, so what? If you can’t afford a $50,000 car don’t buy it. That payment is the same whether it’s electric or gas.
BS ! I get 200,000 + miles on a new car over 10 - 15 years with little more maintenance than tires. First 5 years I'm paying for it, the next ten or so I'm good. Is that the case with the electrics ? NOT ! Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Tesla's cheapest is around 50k. So let's calculate a monthly payment. I used 48,900 in NC.
4.5% interest
60 months
Zero down
Monthly payment?
$911.64
And that is if you can find one.
Peter and joey think this is what we need to do to save money and keep the planet from turning into another sun.
How many of y'all can afford this with cpi at 9+%? Not me.
Oh for the days of mean tweets. Based off what you posted, so what? If you can’t afford a $50,000 car don’t buy it. That payment is the same whether it’s electric or gas. Tesla has nothing to do with what the bank charges in interest or the terms of monthly payments. Tesla made a product and prices it accordingly. Isn’t that what capitalism is all about? There are a lot of people that can afford it and don’t care. Since you brought up what the banks are charging for a 5 year loan, why not talk about how the housing market works and 25 year mortgages. We spend a good chunk of our lives paying for a place to live. Then once the mortgage is paid, renovations are needed. So we remortgage to fix the cracks and leaks. The housing market is a problem right now. Not this electric car bs. You probably haven’t had an electric car in your life, but probably many homes. So based off what you said, the problems are with the loans and nothing to do with electric vehicles. It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things. You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world. Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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I realize that this is thru MSM, but an interesting story;
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles. and... The fuel for these things requires other fuel to provide that fuel. BTW .. do you have any experience at all regarding electric vehicles ? (just wondering, before we get too deep into this discussion )
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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My point jp is most people now can't afford an electric because the price of gas is so high.
Do you see the catch 22?
Happy for you if you have an electric vehicle. I think electric vehicles can be a part of the total energy picture but joey and peter think people should buy a $50k vehicle while costing us more money for all living expenses due to the increase in fuel prices. This raises shipping prices on everything. In turn this raises the price of everything. EVERYTHING!
Yet they blame everyone from big oil to big meat to farmers instead of admitting their failures and fixing the actual problems they purposely created.
They think it is a good idea to go into debt when people bring home less money because they shut down domestic oil production. In near previous years we were a net energy exporter and gas was super low. Now the geriatric bafoon goes to beg a muslim nation, known for it's intolerances, for oil when we have it right here. It's pretty easy to put it together that we are being lead by left wing radicals that want to burn down the greatest nation in the history of the world.
Again, my point is peter and joey want us to buy vehicles we can't afford due to their energy policies. That is if you can find one.
Get it?
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Answer- hazardous spent lithium waste. Can it be recycled? They are working on it. https://phys.org/news/2019-12-lithium-recycled.htmlIn the meantime, just keep throwing them away at the dump and replacing them. Anybody care to know how lithium and cobalt are mined? Hint, it's dangerous and done in the third world with chemicals that poison the environment much worse than anything we do here. As an attachment, China is big into this in Africa and Asia. Chinese are well versed and have a great reputation of being environmentally friendly. But as long as electric vehicle drivers feel better about themselves, that is all that matter.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things.
You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world.
Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.
You seem to be upset that you can’t afford to pay a loan. You’re starting to sound like people on welfare upset because they can’t afford the finer things in life. Because you can’t afford the loan, you’re blaming joey. Sounding a lot like the girls on The View complaining about Trump. Of course you don’t see it the way I do, you’re the one whining about the loan payment. I know the majority on here would agree, if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. And if you want it bad enough work some overtime or get a better paying job and go get it. You sound like the burger flippers wanting $15/hour.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles. and... The fuel for these things requires other fuel to provide that fuel. BTW .. do you have any experience at all regarding electric vehicles ? (just wondering, before we get too deep into this discussion ) If you are in the middle of nowhere and you run out of gas, you can get gas from a good samaritan who would stop to help. Not so, with an electric car. You are talking a tow to the nearest charging station. Gas powered vehicles aren't affected by winter temps like a battery-powered car would be.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things.
You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world.
Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.
You seem to be upset that you can’t afford to pay a loan. You’re starting to sound like people on welfare upset because they can’t afford the finer things in life. Because you can’t afford the loan, you’re blaming joey. Sounding a lot like the girls on The View complaining about Trump. Of course you don’t see it the way I do, you’re the one whining about the loan payment. I know the majority on here would agree, if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. And if you want it bad enough work some overtime or get a better paying job and go get it. You sound like the burger flippers wanting $15/hour. Ok, you just proved how lost you are on this thread. All I can say is keep posting so we can see how canadians think. You OBVIOUSLY don't understand what is going on in the US. Post away jp. You're sounding like a 12 year old interrupting an adult conversation.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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I don’t think a $50,000 loan for an electric vehicle is going to cost more than a $50,000 loan for a gasoline vehicle.
2022 Ford F150 here can cost you $90,000 depending on the package and all the extras you want with it. Trudeau or Biden doesn’t have a roll in that.
For the record, I’m not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.
I just never understood the whole “blame the President for everything bad” thing.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Well bowhunter, you’re upset cause you can’t pay a car loan. You sound like a 16 year old kid that got told no at the bank.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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If you are in the middle of nowhere and you run out of gas, you can get gas from a good samaritan who would stop to help. Not so, with an electric car. You are talking a tow to the nearest charging station. Gas powered vehicles aren't affected by winter temps like a battery-powered car would be.
If that good samaritan is also driving an electric vehicle can they charge you with their vehicle?
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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I don’t think a $50,000 loan for an electric vehicle is going to cost more than a $50,000 loan for a gasoline vehicle.
2022 Ford F150 here can cost you $90,000 depending on the package and all the extras you want with it. Trudeau or Biden doesn’t have a roll in that.
For the record, I’m not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.
I just never understood the whole “blame the President for everything bad” thing.
Can you name anything good that he's done for Americans?
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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So accept the fact that you don't understand US politics and current events.
I am all for anyone buying anything they can afford. The point is just a few years ago, a whole lot more Americans could afford this without having to work harder and longer, IF they wanted one.
Now we can't afford these vehicles that are very low in inventory due to the president's energy policies. I recommend you research what joey has done to our oil production and exploration since the first day he was in office. He shut down the keystone in his first week in office and removed sanctions on Putin's Nord stream 2 pipeline. Oil exploration and leases are much more difficult to access because of joey and the green agenda of the democrat party.
He was asked recently how long high gas prices would last. He replied AS LONG AS IT TAKES!! That is a direct admission that he is ok with high gas prices.
We have a laughing stock for a president, puppeteers behind the scenes running things, and the highest cost of living in 4 decades. That has happened in less than two years when we were in one of the most prosperous times the nation has ever experienced.
Who is to blame?
Either way, it's a catch 22 to tell Americans we should buy electric based on their domestic policies.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Well bowhunter, you’re upset cause you can’t pay a car loan. You sound like a 16 year old kid that got told no at the bank. Have you been looking at my bank account? Again, keep posting jp. Someone will eventually tell you to put the shovel down. I won't. Buddy, you aren't even hitting the target.
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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Cost of living goes up. So it’s fair to say that today things are more expensive than they were last year and so on. So it’s easy for you to blame the current President. If Trump or any other Republican becomes President in the future will you be ok paying that loan?
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Re: So let's buy an electric car
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For the record, I’m not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.
I just never understood the whole “blame the President for everything bad” thing. [/quote] The president gets the blame in this case because he's trying to ram electric vehicles down our throats whether we want them or not.As he says,we're "transitioning" away from fossil fuels.
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