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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629566
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I love my hybrid toyota, a pure 100% electric would not work here

Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7629575
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Originally Posted by Crowfoot
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Based off what you posted, so what? If you canít afford a $50,000 car donít buy it. That payment is the same whether itís electric or gas.



BS ! I get 200,000 + miles on a new car over 10 - 15 years with little more maintenance than tires. First 5 years I'm paying for it, the next ten or so I'm good.
Is that the case with the electrics ? NOT !


Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles.


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: Jurassic Park] #7629579
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Tesla's cheapest is around 50k. So let's calculate a monthly payment. I used 48,900 in NC.

4.5% interest

60 months

Zero down

Monthly payment?

$911.64

And that is if you can find one.

Peter and joey think this is what we need to do to save money and keep the planet from turning into another sun.

How many of y'all can afford this with cpi at 9+%? Not me.

Oh for the days of mean tweets.


Based off what you posted, so what? If you canít afford a $50,000 car donít buy it. That payment is the same whether itís electric or gas. Tesla has nothing to do with what the bank charges in interest or the terms of monthly payments.
Tesla made a product and prices it accordingly. Isnít that what capitalism is all about? There are a lot of people that can afford it and donít care.

Since you brought up what the banks are charging for a 5 year loan, why not talk about how the housing market works and 25 year mortgages.

We spend a good chunk of our lives paying for a place to live. Then once the mortgage is paid, renovations are needed. So we remortgage to fix the cracks and leaks.

The housing market is a problem right now. Not this electric car bs.

You probably havenít had an electric car in your life, but probably many homes.

So based off what you said, the problems are with the loans and nothing to do with electric vehicles.




It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things.

You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world.

Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629580
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Plus reviews regarding the longevity and replacement issues with LI batteries for vehicles.

Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629584
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I realize that this is thru MSM, but an interesting story;

ww.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/florida-family-drives-into-electric-car-problem-a-replacement-battery-costs-more-than-vehicle-itself/ar-AAZGl89?ocid=


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: Jurassic Park] #7629587
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park


Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles.

and...
The fuel for these things requires other fuel to provide that fuel.
BTW .. do you have any experience at all regarding electric vehicles ? (just wondering, before we get too deep into this discussion smile )

Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629589
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My point jp is most people now can't afford an electric because the price of gas is so high.

Do you see the catch 22?

Happy for you if you have an electric vehicle. I think electric vehicles can be a part of the total energy picture but joey and peter think people should buy a $50k vehicle while costing us more money for all living expenses due to the increase in fuel prices. This raises shipping prices on everything. In turn this raises the price of everything. EVERYTHING!

Yet they blame everyone from big oil to big meat to farmers instead of admitting their failures and fixing the actual problems they purposely created.

They think it is a good idea to go into debt when people bring home less money because they shut down domestic oil production. In near previous years we were a net energy exporter and gas was super low. Now the geriatric bafoon goes to beg a muslim nation, known for it's intolerances, for oil when we have it right here. It's pretty easy to put it together that we are being lead by left wing radicals that want to burn down the greatest nation in the history of the world.

Again, my point is peter and joey want us to buy vehicles we can't afford due to their energy policies. That is if you can find one.

Get it?


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629590
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Question?????

Can the batteries from these cars be recycled, or are they hazardous waste?

Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629591
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Answer- hazardous spent lithium waste.

Can it be recycled? They are working on it.

https://phys.org/news/2019-12-lithium-recycled.html

In the meantime, just keep throwing them away at the dump and replacing them.

Anybody care to know how lithium and cobalt are mined? Hint, it's dangerous and done in the third world with chemicals that poison the environment much worse than anything we do here.

As an attachment, China is big into this in Africa and Asia. Chinese are well versed and have a great reputation of being environmentally friendly.

But as long as electric vehicle drivers feel better about themselves, that is all that matter.


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629595
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295


It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things.

You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world.

Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.


You seem to be upset that you canít afford to pay a loan. Youíre starting to sound like people on welfare upset because they canít afford the finer things in life.

Because you canít afford the loan, youíre blaming joey.

Sounding a lot like the girls on The View complaining about Trump.

Of course you donít see it the way I do, youíre the one whining about the loan payment.

I know the majority on here would agree, if you canít afford it, donít buy it. And if you want it bad enough work some overtime or get a better paying job and go get it.

You sound like the burger flippers wanting $15/hour.


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7629597
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Originally Posted by Crowfoot
Originally Posted by Jurassic Park


Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles.

and...
The fuel for these things requires other fuel to provide that fuel.
BTW .. do you have any experience at all regarding electric vehicles ? (just wondering, before we get too deep into this discussion smile )

If you are in the middle of nowhere and you run out of gas, you can get gas from a good samaritan who would stop to help.
Not so, with an electric car. You are talking a tow to the nearest charging station.
Gas powered vehicles aren't affected by winter temps like a battery-powered car would be.


If searching old grandmas at our airports is so important, shouldn't it be this important at our borders too?
Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: Jurassic Park] #7629598
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295


It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things.

You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world.

Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.


You seem to be upset that you canít afford to pay a loan. Youíre starting to sound like people on welfare upset because they canít afford the finer things in life.

Because you canít afford the loan, youíre blaming joey.

Sounding a lot like the girls on The View complaining about Trump.

Of course you donít see it the way I do, youíre the one whining about the loan payment.

I know the majority on here would agree, if you canít afford it, donít buy it. And if you want it bad enough work some overtime or get a better paying job and go get it.

You sound like the burger flippers wanting $15/hour.


Ok, you just proved how lost you are on this thread. All I can say is keep posting so we can see how canadians think.

You OBVIOUSLY don't understand what is going on in the US.

Post away jp. You're sounding like a 12 year old interrupting an adult conversation.


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I donít think a $50,000 loan for an electric vehicle is going to cost more than a $50,000 loan for a gasoline vehicle.

2022 Ford F150 here can cost you $90,000 depending on the package and all the extras you want with it. Trudeau or Biden doesnít have a roll in that.

For the record, Iím not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.

I just never understood the whole ďblame the President for everything badĒ thing.


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629605
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Well bowhunter, youíre upset cause you canít pay a car loan. You sound like a 16 year old kid that got told no at the bank.


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Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: Trapper7] #7629608
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Originally Posted by Trapper7

If you are in the middle of nowhere and you run out of gas, you can get gas from a good samaritan who would stop to help.
Not so, with an electric car. You are talking a tow to the nearest charging station.
Gas powered vehicles aren't affected by winter temps like a battery-powered car would be.


If that good samaritan is also driving an electric vehicle can they charge you with their vehicle?


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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
I donít think a $50,000 loan for an electric vehicle is going to cost more than a $50,000 loan for a gasoline vehicle.

2022 Ford F150 here can cost you $90,000 depending on the package and all the extras you want with it. Trudeau or Biden doesnít have a roll in that.

For the record, Iím not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.

I just never understood the whole ďblame the President for everything badĒ thing.

Can you name anything good that he's done for Americans?


If searching old grandmas at our airports is so important, shouldn't it be this important at our borders too?
Re: So let's buy an electric car [Re: bowhunter27295] #7629610
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So accept the fact that you don't understand US politics and current events.

I am all for anyone buying anything they can afford. The point is just a few years ago, a whole lot more Americans could afford this without having to work harder and longer, IF they wanted one.

Now we can't afford these vehicles that are very low in inventory due to the president's energy policies. I recommend you research what joey has done to our oil production and exploration since the first day he was in office. He shut down the keystone in his first week in office and removed sanctions on Putin's Nord stream 2 pipeline. Oil exploration and leases are much more difficult to access because of joey and the green agenda of the democrat party.

He was asked recently how long high gas prices would last. He replied AS LONG AS IT TAKES!! That is a direct admission that he is ok with high gas prices.

We have a laughing stock for a president, puppeteers behind the scenes running things, and the highest cost of living in 4 decades. That has happened in less than two years when we were in one of the most prosperous times the nation has ever experienced.

Who is to blame?

Either way, it's a catch 22 to tell Americans we should buy electric based on their domestic policies.


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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Well bowhunter, youíre upset cause you canít pay a car loan. You sound like a 16 year old kid that got told no at the bank.


Have you been looking at my bank account?

Again, keep posting jp. Someone will eventually tell you to put the shovel down. I won't.
laugh

Buddy, you aren't even hitting the target.


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Cost of living goes up. So itís fair to say that today things are more expensive than they were last year and so on. So itís easy for you to blame the current President. If Trump or any other Republican becomes President in the future will you be ok paying that loan?


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For the record, Iím not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.

I just never understood the whole ďblame the President for everything badĒ thing.
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The president gets the blame in this case because he's trying to ram electric vehicles down our throats whether we want them or not.As he says,we're "transitioning" away from fossil fuels.


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