I love my hybrid toyota, a pure 100% electric would not work here

Please tell us your experience with electric vehicles.

It is quite obvious from your response you are doing one of two things.

You are either deflecting or you don't understand what is going on in the US and the world.

Go back and re-read my post and see if you can get the gist of my point. You are definitely way off the mark.

A Golf cart and a RC truck
Plus reviews regarding the longevity and replacement issues with LI batteries for vehicles.

I realize that this is thru MSM, but an interesting story;

ww.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/florida-family-drives-into-electric-car-problem-a-replacement-battery-costs-more-than-vehicle-itself/ar-AAZGl89?ocid=

and...
The fuel for these things requires other fuel to provide that fuel.
BTW .. do you have any experience at all regarding electric vehicles ? (just wondering, before we get too deep into this discussion )

My point jp is most people now can't afford an electric because the price of gas is so high.

Do you see the catch 22?

Happy for you if you have an electric vehicle. I think electric vehicles can be a part of the total energy picture but joey and peter think people should buy a $50k vehicle while costing us more money for all living expenses due to the increase in fuel prices. This raises shipping prices on everything. In turn this raises the price of everything. EVERYTHING!

Yet they blame everyone from big oil to big meat to farmers instead of admitting their failures and fixing the actual problems they purposely created.

They think it is a good idea to go into debt when people bring home less money because they shut down domestic oil production. In near previous years we were a net energy exporter and gas was super low. Now the geriatric bafoon goes to beg a muslim nation, known for it's intolerances, for oil when we have it right here. It's pretty easy to put it together that we are being lead by left wing radicals that want to burn down the greatest nation in the history of the world.

Again, my point is peter and joey want us to buy vehicles we can't afford due to their energy policies. That is if you can find one.

Get it?

Question?????

Can the batteries from these cars be recycled, or are they hazardous waste?

Answer- hazardous spent lithium waste.

Can it be recycled? They are working on it.

https://phys.org/news/2019-12-lithium-recycled.html

In the meantime, just keep throwing them away at the dump and replacing them.

Anybody care to know how lithium and cobalt are mined? Hint, it's dangerous and done in the third world with chemicals that poison the environment much worse than anything we do here.

As an attachment, China is big into this in Africa and Asia. Chinese are well versed and have a great reputation of being environmentally friendly.

But as long as electric vehicle drivers feel better about themselves, that is all that matter.

You seem to be upset that you can’t afford to pay a loan. You’re starting to sound like people on welfare upset because they can’t afford the finer things in life.

Because you can’t afford the loan, you’re blaming joey.

Sounding a lot like the girls on The View complaining about Trump.

Of course you don’t see it the way I do, you’re the one whining about the loan payment.

I know the majority on here would agree, if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. And if you want it bad enough work some overtime or get a better paying job and go get it.

You sound like the burger flippers wanting $15/hour.

If you are in the middle of nowhere and you run out of gas, you can get gas from a good samaritan who would stop to help.
Not so, with an electric car. You are talking a tow to the nearest charging station.
Gas powered vehicles aren't affected by winter temps like a battery-powered car would be.

Ok, you just proved how lost you are on this thread. All I can say is keep posting so we can see how canadians think.

You OBVIOUSLY don't understand what is going on in the US.

Post away jp. You're sounding like a 12 year old interrupting an adult conversation.

I don’t think a $50,000 loan for an electric vehicle is going to cost more than a $50,000 loan for a gasoline vehicle.

2022 Ford F150 here can cost you $90,000 depending on the package and all the extras you want with it. Trudeau or Biden doesn’t have a roll in that.

For the record, I’m not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.

I just never understood the whole “blame the President for everything bad” thing.

Well bowhunter, you’re upset cause you can’t pay a car loan. You sound like a 16 year old kid that got told no at the bank.

If that good samaritan is also driving an electric vehicle can they charge you with their vehicle?

Can you name anything good that he's done for Americans?

So accept the fact that you don't understand US politics and current events.

I am all for anyone buying anything they can afford. The point is just a few years ago, a whole lot more Americans could afford this without having to work harder and longer, IF they wanted one.

Now we can't afford these vehicles that are very low in inventory due to the president's energy policies. I recommend you research what joey has done to our oil production and exploration since the first day he was in office. He shut down the keystone in his first week in office and removed sanctions on Putin's Nord stream 2 pipeline. Oil exploration and leases are much more difficult to access because of joey and the green agenda of the democrat party.

He was asked recently how long high gas prices would last. He replied AS LONG AS IT TAKES!! That is a direct admission that he is ok with high gas prices.

We have a laughing stock for a president, puppeteers behind the scenes running things, and the highest cost of living in 4 decades. That has happened in less than two years when we were in one of the most prosperous times the nation has ever experienced.

Who is to blame?

Either way, it's a catch 22 to tell Americans we should buy electric based on their domestic policies.

Have you been looking at my bank account?

Again, keep posting jp. Someone will eventually tell you to put the shovel down. I won't.


Buddy, you aren't even hitting the target.

Cost of living goes up. So it’s fair to say that today things are more expensive than they were last year and so on. So it’s easy for you to blame the current President. If Trump or any other Republican becomes President in the future will you be ok paying that loan?

For the record, I’m not an electric car kinda guy and the idea of electric vehicles being the new future and getting rid of gasoline vehicles is retarded.

I just never understood the whole “blame the President for everything bad” thing.
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The president gets the blame in this case because he's trying to ram electric vehicles down our throats whether we want them or not.As he says,we're "transitioning" away from fossil fuels.