Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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What??? Y'all wouldn't invite them in for coffee?
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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07/19/22 07:28 PM
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At the very least I would call it conditioning.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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07/19/22 09:43 PM
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"The Shot Heard Around the WORLD" saying comes to my mind for some reason?
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
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07/19/22 11:29 PM
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DWC. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. You'll end up just like canada. I agree with that, but there is also a lot unknown, just like a lot of videos posted online. It’s entirely possible the agents were following up on a tip that this guy was facilitating straw purchases and they were just feeling the guy out. The podcaster doesnt know (but makes assumptions to fit his agenda). He keeps suggesting they shouldnt be there because it’s not the projects or a trailer park. It’s possible this was a random thing, which i think is overreach, but it’s also possible it was not.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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07/19/22 11:33 PM
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If a federal agency is working on a 'tip' they ain't gonna let the person they are watching know they are investigating them.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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The LIE of there is no gun registry sours me on believing ANYTHING they say. Then you have the state patrol guy wandering around looking at other areas. It all seems hokey the way it was executed. No warrant then don't come around without an invitation.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: DWC]
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DWC. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. You'll end up just like canada. I agree with that, but there is also a lot unknown, just like a lot of videos posted online. It’s entirely possible the agents were following up on a tip that this guy was facilitating straw purchases and they were just feeling the guy out. The podcaster doesnt know (but makes assumptions to fit his agenda). He keeps suggesting they shouldnt be there because it’s not the projects or a trailer park. It’s possible this was a random thing, which i think is overreach, but it’s also possible it was not. I think you're right about a lot of what the commentator said. His bias and prejudice is very evident. I'm not going to pay much attention to anything he has to say. But what we can see in the recording of what actually happened is enlightening and concerning.
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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07/20/22 11:55 AM
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never talk to law enforcement.
"I do not answer questions and I agree to no searches".
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
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DWC. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. You'll end up just like canada. I agree with that, but there is also a lot unknown, just like a lot of videos posted online. It’s entirely possible the agents were following up on a tip that this guy was facilitating straw purchases and they were just feeling the guy out. The podcaster doesnt know (but makes assumptions to fit his agenda). He keeps suggesting they shouldnt be there because it’s not the projects or a trailer park. It’s possible this was a random thing, which i think is overreach, but it’s also possible it was not. I agree and is just one of the reasons I stopped watching videos of any kind that are posted. Heck, half the stuff you read from established news outlets are not accurate.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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Some years ago I went to the doctor for my annual physical. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out asked if I had guns in the house? I left it blank and told my doctor I'd didn't think it was anyone's business if I had guns in my house. He agreed. The next year when I had to fill out the same form that question had been eliminated.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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I think it is a stretch to say that there is some jaded viewpoint discussed in this video. It is most likely that many straw purchases/illegal transfers and are done in gang land territory. Multiple firearm purchases in a short period of time do draw attention of atf. They had no legal reason to be ask to see guns or they would have had a search warrant. Videos like this can show us how to best interact if a similar situation happens to us....so they are very useful to view. The person they visited should have just said that he does not answer questions..period. Then asked them to leave.
Law enforcement likes to intimidate people....especially law abiding people. Lots to be learned/thought about in this video.
I do not watch political rant video's..because there is nothing really to learn from them.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: Marty]
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07/20/22 12:28 PM
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is it just me or does it seem like VERY poor form to show up in street cloths plain t-shirts
even the Delaware state trooper in a T-shirt
you can buy everything they are wearing on the internet
I think my first step would have been to call local PD and have them dispatch an officer to check their credentials
that guy in Canada did a better job of looking like a real office before he shot the real officers
at least our local officers when they are doing a non duty assignment where they have their full uniform on they have department logo polo shirts and t-shirts
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
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07/20/22 06:05 PM
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Anyone who thinks that the government doesn't track citizens' firearms purchases is a fool, in my opinion. Same thing goes for ELR rifles! They know who ownes 338 Lapua 375 Cheytac 408 Barretts and 50 BMGs and how far they are being shot do they track every rifle, what scope is on it, so they know who can cap them in another zip code? do they know my 270 winchester is now a dedicated ELR after a rebuild? how about my 300 rum? orr my 7mm rem. that is now a certified 1 mile hunting rifle? gonna hafta call BS on that.
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Re: atf knocks on door.....
[Re: martentrapper]
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07/21/22 04:11 AM
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FFL just calls or emails your name birthdate, etc. to the nics guys. No info is provided about the gun you bought. ATF has to go to the FFL and check his records to see data on the particular gun,guns you bought. The guy says, "you bought more than one gun and we get notified of that". I'm sceptical of that. All 3 officers in T shirts? Could the whole video have been staged? Yes, I don't believe 1/2 or more videos and such. Try not to watch most of it and make my own educated decisions. As usual you have to wade through a lot of bull to get to the actual facts
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