Re: Black beavers
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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03/20/22 07:04 AM
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Eagleye
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\ I've Caught 9 out of Two colonies since 1986 ...For me they're rare , I should have had them tanned. When I sold them the buyers paid the same. How many from Wisconsin 330? I've only caught two... sold the first one and hooping this one
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
#7533192
03/20/22 09:09 AM
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Posts: 5,956 South metro, MN
Calvin
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I catch about one about every year or two. They are beautiful...but pays the same from the fur buyer in my experience.
Yeah, I think I'll start tanning them. Now I'll probably never catch another one.
Last edited by Calvin; 03/20/22 09:10 AM.
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
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03/20/22 09:44 AM
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Snowpa
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Caught 6 a few years back a stone's throw from my back door ,never seen any others since .
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
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03/20/22 09:55 AM
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Buck (Zandra)
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Its not a color phase that's common here,but they're not rare either.I had a old furbuyer from northern lower Michigan tell me he saw more from the upper peninsula than the northern lower peninsula,and he attributed that to cold darker trout streams up here.By darker I think he was referring to the iron content of the water.I'm not sure he was right but it was as good as any thing I could come up with for the color phase
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
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03/20/22 10:56 AM
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J.Morse
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I haven't trapped much for beaver the last 10-12 years, but I used to get them regularly when I did. There were ponds/colonies where I expected them to be black. I didn't keep track of the numbers I caught, but was a bunch over the years. I don't believe I ever got a nickle more for a black one than I did a "regular" colored beav. I have the full skin/pelt of a 50 pound black frozen that I planned to do a swimming lifesize mount of, but it always gets put off. Someday.
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: danvee]
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03/20/22 11:07 AM
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They can just dye beaver black so I would not think they would be worth more. To the tourist market and the native sewers in Alaska, natural black beaver is much more desirable. There is something about the natural luster that doesn’t happen with dyed pelts. At the NAFA sales, the blacks almost always brought more money. There were 2 or 3 buyers that were always after them.
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
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03/20/22 11:17 AM
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waggler
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I have never caught one in Washington, I have caught hundreds of beaver since 1970. I have caught a couple of black one in SE Alaska over the past 20 years.
I would be curious to know if Beaverpeeler or Any other guys in Oregon have caught any.
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
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03/20/22 11:19 AM
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Posts: 45,482 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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A good percentage of beaver here are Dark/xdk.These beaver have a bit of brown on the cheeks,and occasionally on the rim around the back legs. A true black beaver is about 1% of the harvest and is totally black.
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: Buck (Zandra)]
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03/20/22 11:43 AM
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Posts: 11,170 Oregon
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Its not a color phase that's common here,but they're not rare either.I had a old furbuyer from northern lower Michigan tell me he saw more from the upper peninsula than the northern lower peninsula,and he attributed that to cold darker trout streams up here.By darker I think he was referring to the iron content of the water.I'm not sure he was right but it was as good as any thing I could come up with for the color phase I have noticed darker fur coming from areas with more acidic soils. And conversely sweet high pH soils tend to have light colored fur.
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: hobbes]
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03/20/22 12:10 PM
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Bogmaster
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My catch of totally black beaver always ran about 6%,received the same price as the browns.But the blacks are so much prettier. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: Black beavers
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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03/20/22 04:17 PM
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Posts: 9,194 Alaska and Washington State
waggler
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Its not a color phase that's common here,but they're not rare either.I had a old furbuyer from northern lower Michigan tell me he saw more from the upper peninsula than the northern lower peninsula,and he attributed that to cold darker trout streams up here.By darker I think he was referring to the iron content of the water.I'm not sure he was right but it was as good as any thing I could come up with for the color phase I have noticed darker fur coming from areas with more acidic soils. And conversely sweet high pH soils tend to have light colored fur. But have you ever caught a truly black beaver in Oregon. I have noticed over the years that in western Washington the color of beaver fur is a lot more consistent than in most other sections of beaver. Again, never caught a black one in Washington.
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