Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/25/22 09:29 PM
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Carry all the time , never had to pull it out , thank gawd.
However , I had cleaned one of my shotguns one evening. I had put it next to my safe to put away later. I was sitting next to it and I heard a noise at my front door. I was about 10 feet away from the door. Then I seen my doorknob turning slowly ( locked ) I grabbed the shotgun and very loudly cycled the action ( empty )
Then a heard a commotion and footfalls. Jumped to the window to see 3 guys running away from my house at high speed. Stopped that potential home invasion quickly.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/25/22 10:33 PM
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HayDay
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BTW, when I said "tomorrow", that was not literally "tomorrow". More like someday in the unknown future. Stuff happens when you least expect it. And by coincidence I did pull a fire extinguisher last fall for the first time ever. My zero turn mower caught fire with me on it. Believe it or not, I saved it. Probably a good analogy.
And for the record, not opposed to anyone who feels the need to carry. There might even be a piece around here somewhere I could be holding for my oldest kid, who is currently living overseas. He got it when he got out of the Marines.......was working nights stocking shelves at Walmart. Fellow employee went out for food at 2AM and never came back. Was murdered in the parking lot. Anybody who doesn't see that as a threat to worry about isn't very bright.
But I tend to avoid those kind of situations, and know most of the places to avoid when the sun goes down. I follow Omega Man rules for those that can remember what that means. Don't know if I've been lucky or good, but whatever, have managed to avoid that kind of trouble myself.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/26/22 09:19 AM
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I carry every day.
I've needed it every day.
Had my hand on it a couple times, but, only needed to draw it once. German Shepherd.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/26/22 09:19 AM
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I don't, and in my entire lifetime, can't think of a single situation when I felt I would have needed a piece. That may change tomorrow.
But for those of you who do........have you ever needed it? Or situations you know of where a piece was needed. Pulled or not. LEO don't count......that's a given.....like breathing. I have been CCW for the past 34 years. Thank the Lord that I have never had to brandish it. At the point where I am pulling out a gun, there are going to be only seconds to de-escalate before the trigger is squeezed, if that long. There have been a few times when I have positioned myself, began to move and think about it due to the situation, but I have never had to brandish it. That being said, I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Last edited by Finster; 07/26/22 09:21 AM.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/26/22 10:08 AM
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Being someone who has had death threats made against myself and family. I have pretty good sense of the situational awareness thing. Even during that time in my life I never needed to pull gun. My wife was ok with her shotgun loaded standing in corner. My son slept with a 9mm always within reach. Mostly we went into low profile mode and it all blew over. I carry almost daily now do kinda go in streaks depending on how I'm dressed. Where I'm going.
Like most here have said better to have and not need than need not have. I've never felt I needed my cc for a human. Been couple dogs come close to taking a round.
I do think though about when Danny and I were shopping at Walmart in Springfield during NTA. I know Danny had his cc but mine was actually in lock box in my truck. Few days after we were at that store. I believe it made national news with a gun incident. So it's all about timing and location. Just never know. I can say I have used the fire extinguisher I carry in my truck several times on fires.LoL And don't underestimate the value of a 2or5lb dry chem as easily obtained weapon.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: grumley701]
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07/26/22 10:20 AM
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I haven't had the need to pull my CC but then again I haven't had the need to pull the fire extinguisher in the kitchen either... I did need the fire extinguisher in my basement and it was in my truck because the one in the kitchen had gone bad. longest seconds working on a appliance fire with the hose from the laundry sink , water doesn't do a god job of putting out burring plastic while my son ran to get the extinguisher from my truck. so smoke detectors and fire extinguishers work I fully expect situational awareness and a side arm also work so far situational awareness has let me take actions or inactions to avoid the need for the side arm my only CCW shoots have been big boar coons in hiding places in my brothers barn , went to move some stuff and was facing down a big boar cornered I could have backed out and let it go but I cleared it with my brother and he said yeah shoot , I already had my gun and light out. I thought I might have to with a dog once but it didn't come to it.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
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07/26/22 10:35 AM
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I haven't had the need to pull my CC but then again I haven't had the need to pull the fire extinguisher in the kitchen either... Excellent point Good comparison.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/26/22 10:50 AM
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It has to be a last resort to shoot someone. But, as in the case of the person who shot the person who was killing people in the mall, it was a good choice.
I saw a show last night where some years ago, a woman's husband was kidnapped. The kidnapper came to her door to collect a ransom. She reached into a dresser drawer pretending to be getting the money for him. Instead, she pulled a 38 and shot the man. Turns out he was a career criminal who had been in and out of prison. She was arrested and ended up doing 3 years in prison. Her husband was never found and was assumed dead. This was supposedly a true story.
Every time you renew your CC permit, you have to take a class. The emphasis always is, if you shoot someone, regardless of the situation you will be arrested until they can iron things out. One class I took the instructor said, unless the situation is a direct threat to you, it's in your best interest to walk away from all possible confrontations. If the person who killed the mall shooter had walked away a lot more people would have died that day.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/26/22 11:01 AM
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I've had mine in my hand. Opponent didn't have a clue. He had already fired a handgun and had a shovel handle he planned to use on me. I found another way out and took it!
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: Trapper7]
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07/26/22 11:12 AM
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It has to be a last resort to shoot someone. But, as in the case of the person who shot the person who was killing people in the mall, it was a good choice.
I saw a show last night where some years ago, a woman's husband was kidnapped. The kidnapper came to her door to collect a ransom. She reached into a dresser drawer pretending to be getting the money for him. Instead, she pulled a 38 and shot the man. Turns out he was a career criminal who had been in and out of prison. She was arrested and ended up doing 3 years in prison. Her husband was never found and was assumed dead. This was supposedly a true story.
Every time you renew your CC permit, you have to take a class. The emphasis always is, if you shoot someone, regardless of the situation you will be arrested until they can iron things out. One class I took the instructor said, unless the situation is a direct threat to you, it's in your best interest to walk away from all possible confrontations. If the person who killed the mall shooter had walked away a lot more people would have died that day. it is a decision everyone needs to work out for them something they should contemplate before the time of the need I agree strapping on a gun absolutly does not mean your going looking for the trouble or the fight and it is the last thing you want to do to have to use it , that is a solid mind set. where you have to figure out where your line is , is can you live with yourself if you didn't step in , are you a Dickens or a Uvalde PD. how do you sleep at night? in WI your hunters ed from 1989 works as your proof of training , as does a DD214 so most of us need to never take a class and nothing for a renewal but your 22 dollars for your background check , card printing and postage every 5 years.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Conceal Carry Guys
[Re: HayDay]
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07/26/22 11:43 AM
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I've carried nearly every day for 41 years. 20 of those years as a Law Enforcement Specialist in the Air Force. Feel nakked without one. Only had to draw my weapon once on Active Duty, thankfully I did not need to use it. Never have drawn it as a civilian. Hope I never do.
When things are Grim, become the Grim Reaper! Fred Moyer
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