No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products

Joe Goodman Prints
Please support Joe Goodman because he supports us with donations

Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Waterproofing DP Coon Bait #7635519
07/26/22 11:03 AM
07/26/22 11:03 AM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
S
Swamp Wolf Offline OP
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
Is there anything made that will waterproof fish food pellets or dry cat food so it doesn't turn to mush in a DP? Is it even possible to coat this type bait to keep it from turning to mush too quickly?

I'm currently using Ztrap caps and pvc caps to keep some of the rain out.

This is for summer time nuisance coon trapping with almost daily rain..

I'm using a variation of baits and lures....

A) marshmallows with kool-aid powder (my go-to winter bait) - dissolving away to goo in couple days and ants are bad.
B) anise scented coon grabbers - work OK but not enough edible attraction.
C) sardines - too attractive to ants and lasts less than 24 hrs in trap.
D) floating fish food pellets and whole kernal corn (with vanilla extract and almond oil added......best bait so far...but pellets dissolve in 2 or 3 days.
E) added commercial grade smoke oil to fish food/corn mix today...results???

Any other good bait ideas. I'm not interested in purchasing commercial made DP baits...and need any ideas for a better bait or bait coating, etc.

Today was check day 4. Have caught 16 coons out of 40 DPs. Not great, but the struggles are real...lol


Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635522
07/26/22 11:09 AM
07/26/22 11:09 AM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,377
Wisconsin
E
Eagleye Online content
trapper
Eagleye  Online Content
trapper
E

Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,377
Wisconsin
I coat my fish pellets in molasses for my DP's it seems to help

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635523
07/26/22 11:11 AM
07/26/22 11:11 AM
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 4,630
W NY
Turtledale Offline
trapper
Turtledale  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 4,630
W NY
Floating fish food soaked in molasses for a couple weeks and stirred every few days then mixed with whole dried corn. The molasses coating makes it very waterproof for me and the whole dried corn also stays well


NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Catt.county trappers
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635603
07/26/22 12:42 PM
07/26/22 12:42 PM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 7,259
SW Georgia
W
Wanna Be Offline
trapper
Wanna Be  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: May 2018
Posts: 7,259
SW Georgia
The main issue besides mush, is ants. I swapped all my baits out to peanuts where I am now. 2 possums and a coon this morningÖthatís after the DPís had set for 2-3 days with grape koolaide corn or grape koolaide catfood with no results. I would think the molasses would attract ants as well.
My properties seem to differ on baits based on whatís being fed on the property. The last two properties had plenty of corn/protein feeders, so the grape catfood worked well.
This property has no feeders except for grain sorghum spread out on the feed trails. I really thought the corn would work, but they have a few bait sites with peanuts for hogs and thatís whatís drawing them in, so peanuts it is, lol.
I do know during the winter months that even if the catfood or marshmallows turn to mush, theyíll still hit the DPís.
Right now thereís so much food everywhere I think it just depends on what theyíre in the mood for. I seem to catch more in flat sets set for coyotes than DPís right now.

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635605
07/26/22 12:57 PM
07/26/22 12:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 14,276
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Offline
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 14,276
Green County Wisconsin
a little help is Gatorade bottles , I cut the bottom out leave the cap on , they are clear so you can see to check your bait , coons take them off very easily

orange caps make them easier to spot

and they fit over most DP's

it keeps the rain off , humidity is still an issue . I came to this while I was trapping some nuisance coon and it was raining every night it was also hot and we were chugging Gatorade to stay hydrated , had some rolling around the truck and said hey that would fit.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 07/26/22 12:57 PM.

America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635608
07/26/22 12:59 PM
07/26/22 12:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 146
Central Wisconsin
C
Craig S. Offline
trapper
Craig S.  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 146
Central Wisconsin
[Linked Image]

I recently tried setting one with a golf ball for a cover for the same reasons you mentioned- It seemed to work at keeping the bait dry and should add some eye appeal I would think?

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Turtledale] #7635609
07/26/22 12:59 PM
07/26/22 12:59 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
S
Swamp Wolf Offline OP
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
Originally Posted by Eagleye
I coat my fish pellets in molasses for my DP's it seems to help

Originally Posted by Turtledale
Floating fish food soaked in molasses for a couple weeks and stirred every few days then mixed with whole dried corn. The molasses coating makes it very waterproof for me and the whole dried corn also stays well

Is this liquid molasses yall referring to?


Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635611
07/26/22 01:00 PM
07/26/22 01:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,228
NC
C
Carolina Foxer Offline
trapper
Carolina Foxer  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,228
NC
tumble the pellets in your cement mixer used for waxed dirt, and tiny amt of wax and then add some sort of liquid scent or additive to make sure the minimal wax didnt cover up the food odor too much??

but then your waxed dirt cement mixer dedicated to waxing bait pellets...??



Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7635612
07/26/22 01:01 PM
07/26/22 01:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
S
Swamp Wolf Offline OP
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
a little help is Gatorade bottles , I cut the bottom out leave the cap on , they are clear so you can see to check your bait , coons take them off very easily

orange caps make them easier to spot

and they fit over most DP's

it keeps the rain off , humidity is still an issue . I came to this while I was trapping some nuisance coon and it was raining every night it was also hot and we were chugging Gatorade to stay hydrated , had some rolling around the truck and said hey that would fit.

I'm gonna do this. Have plenty of water bottles too.


Good idea....the clear bottle part...I like.


Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Craig S.] #7635614
07/26/22 01:04 PM
07/26/22 01:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 3,093
Michigan
D
Ditchdiver Offline
trapper
Ditchdiver  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 3,093
Michigan
Originally Posted by Craig S.
[Linked Image]

I recently tried setting one with a golf ball for a cover for the same reasons you mentioned- It seemed to work at keeping the bait dry and should add some eye appeal I would think?

Ah, "Fur King". I love that bait!


When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635619
07/26/22 01:18 PM
07/26/22 01:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 168
Southeast Louisiana
S
Slipknot Offline
trapper
Slipknot  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 168
Southeast Louisiana
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Is there anything made that will waterproof fish food pellets or dry cat food so it doesn't turn to mush in a DP? Is it even possible to coat this type bait to keep it from turning to mush too quickly?

I'm currently using Ztrap caps and pvc caps to keep some of the rain out.

This is for summer time nuisance coon trapping with almost daily rain..

I'm using a variation of baits and lures....

A) marshmallows with kool-aid powder (my go-to winter bait) - dissolving away to goo in couple days and ants are bad.
B) anise scented coon grabbers - work OK but not enough edible attraction.
C) sardines - too attractive to ants and lasts less than 24 hrs in trap.
D) floating fish food pellets and whole kernal corn (with vanilla extract and almond oil added......best bait so far...but pellets dissolve in 2 or 3 days.
E) added commercial grade smoke oil to fish food/corn mix today...results???

Any other good bait ideas. I'm not interested in purchasing commercial made DP baits...and need any ideas for a better bait or bait coating, etc.

Today was check day 4. Have caught 16 coons out of 40 DPs. Not great, but the struggles are real...lol




Letter D above is what i would have tried without the pellets.I would soak my corn in the almond oil /extract for a couple days. Also if you can find a sack of persimmon flavored corn that works well. I think the key is soaking the corn long enough to pic up the aroma. Swamp Wolf are you blind setting so to speak or setting around protein feeders.

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635627
07/26/22 01:35 PM
07/26/22 01:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,915
Amite county Mississippi
Wolfdog91 Online sleepy
trapper
Wolfdog91  Online Sleepy
trapper

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,915
Amite county Mississippi
I took some federalas preator bait and add like spoon full to a jar of dog food and shook it real good. Crap seemed to give it some kinda oil coating and I had some in a dos for a pretty wet and rainy week and seem to shed water really well.. no clue how it would work int he heat though. Will say however after about a week it's like you flipped a switch and it turns to mush. And Locklear's federalas seems to be the only one this worked well with.


Trappermans Resident Black Guy
The Black Redneck! 22yrs
MS National Guardsmen
I Like Moddin Traps 'N Trapping Possums
Go Ordnance!!!!
Tman Archivist
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635628
07/26/22 01:35 PM
07/26/22 01:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,631
Rodney,Ohio
SNIPERB🦝 Online happy
trapper
SNIPERB🦝  Online Happy
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,631
Rodney,Ohio
Melted animal fat might work

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635660
07/26/22 02:41 PM
07/26/22 02:41 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
S
Swamp Wolf Offline OP
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
Slipknot,
Most of the coon have been caught near a 2 acre field-corn field they're raiding. A few have been caught near a corn feeder and others near domestic grape arbors.

Landowner is a deer fanatic. Everything he does is for deer and deer only. Guy is a multi-millionaire and doesn't even hunt much...go figure.


Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #7635661
07/26/22 02:41 PM
07/26/22 02:41 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
S
Swamp Wolf Offline OP
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,900
South Ga - Almost Florida
Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Melted animal fat might work

Another good idea!

Won't eliminate the -ants but the waterproofing might do good.


Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635663
07/26/22 02:48 PM
07/26/22 02:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,144
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,144
Georgia
Beeswax will do the trick plus it has its own attractive odors.

Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635727
07/26/22 04:17 PM
07/26/22 04:17 PM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,715
SE Iowa USA
A
AKAjust Online content
trapper
AKAjust  Online Content
trapper
A

Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,715
SE Iowa USA
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Slipknot,
Most of the coon have been caught near a 2 acre field-corn field they're raiding. A few have been caught near a corn feeder and others near domestic grape arbors.

Landowner is a deer fanatic. Everything he does is for deer and deer only. Guy is a multi-millionaire and doesn't even hunt much...go figure.



Seems like you answered your own question.
Near or in the corn field a pile of corn around your trap and maybe creamed corn in the trap.
Around the grapes use grape jelly in the trap and grapes around the trap.
A few ants ain't gonna bother coon much.
The golf ball thing works but I drill a hole thru the ball and screw a 1" long dowell to it. Stays on better and a coon has no trouble removing it. Also saves the hands setting all those traps at the trap sites.



just

Last edited by AKAjust; 07/26/22 04:19 PM.
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635734
07/26/22 04:24 PM
07/26/22 04:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 14,276
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Offline
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 14,276
Green County Wisconsin
when I have been trapping around chickens I could set a dozen DPs and never catch a one even though I know there are walking right past them

if I set cage traps in the tire ruts down the lane the would follow I would get some because they basically walked into it

move back to the den trees 300 yards away and if I can put them right in their face when they get down that tree I have catches

in the trail they make once they have sight of that chicken house nothing

the chicken house is a big green house like structure on skids that gets pulled down the field for free ranging , there is electro net around the chicken yard but they fly in and out all the time some are dumb and spend the night outside the wire.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7635754
07/26/22 05:09 PM
07/26/22 05:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 4,630
W NY
Turtledale Offline
trapper
Turtledale  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 4,630
W NY
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Eagleye
I coat my fish pellets in molasses for my DP's it seems to help

Originally Posted by Turtledale
Floating fish food soaked in molasses for a couple weeks and stirred every few days then mixed with whole dried corn. The molasses coating makes it very waterproof for me and the whole dried corn also stays well

Is this liquid molasses yall referring to?

Yes


NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Catt.county trappers
Re: Waterproofing DP Coon Bait [Re: Ditchdiver] #7635845
07/26/22 07:34 PM
07/26/22 07:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 146
Central Wisconsin
C
Craig S. Offline
trapper
Craig S.  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 146
Central Wisconsin
Originally Posted by Ditchdiver
Originally Posted by Craig S.
[Linked Image]

I recently tried setting one with a golf ball for a cover for the same reasons you mentioned- It seemed to work at keeping the bait dry and should add some eye appeal I would think?

Ah, "Fur King". I love that bait!



Just wanted to clarify - the fur king is just smeared on the outside of the golf ball / rain cap . Not sure if it makes any difference but figured it canít hurt

Cheap dog food- small kibbles lightly coated with maple syrup is what I have been using for bait inside the traps when itís warm out.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread