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MARKET UPDATE! #7635645
07/26/22 03:17 PM
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GFW - GROENEWOLD Offline OP
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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635668
07/26/22 03:58 PM
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Gooooooooooooooooioooooooooogroeny

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635673
07/26/22 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the update.


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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635676
07/26/22 04:13 PM
07/26/22 04:13 PM
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Oregon
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Always nice to hear something positive on the fur market.


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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: beaverpeeler] #7635680
07/26/22 04:19 PM
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walla walla ,washington
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Curious he didn’t talk about coyotes, not a good thing.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635689
07/26/22 04:27 PM
07/26/22 04:27 PM
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Sounds like a .25 more per pelt to me....

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635703
07/26/22 04:44 PM
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What does Walleyed say" Grony Rocks"!

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635708
07/26/22 04:49 PM
07/26/22 04:49 PM
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When he said otter may go up Wonder how much? What did they go for this past season? I can remember getting 70 dollars apiece a few years back.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: Slipknot] #7635748
07/26/22 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
When he said otter may go up Wonder how much? What did they go for this past season? I can remember getting 70 dollars apiece a few years back.

Would be nice to know.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635751
07/26/22 06:01 PM
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My guess is he didn’t talk about coyotes because you can’t put a good spin on the phrase “pitch em in a ditch”


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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635753
07/26/22 06:02 PM
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Unfortunately IMO Bob is correct.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: ] #7635817
07/26/22 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by Slipknot
When he said otter may go up Wonder how much? What did they go for this past season? I can remember getting 70 dollars apiece a few years back.

Would be nice to know.


This last FHA auction otter averaged just over $22 and only half sold. Hardly encouraging from where I sit.


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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635837
07/26/22 08:23 PM
07/26/22 08:23 PM
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Thanks. I don't want to skin one for that.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635841
07/26/22 08:28 PM
07/26/22 08:28 PM
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prices are better, prices have improved, don't mean I will pay you more than your cost to produce


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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: danny clifton] #7635864
07/26/22 08:52 PM
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If i wait until the fur covers my cost I may never trap again. I am thinking there are a lot of commercial grade coyotes in storage or in peoples hands, not unlike coons. It does sound like at least a couple of the species in my area will at least sell. I just have to determine when and what I trap. Inflation has not helped the fur market, recessions never have and if we have a general downward fur trend and politics as well we probably need to get used to this. We have been hearing this for almost a decade already but we just don't seem to hear as well as we should. The one thing I have learned is the fur I trap does not impact the market so I am not contributing to low fur prices i am just contributing to my own loss of liquidity.
I did some reviewing and I found the coons I sold in 2013-2014 that averaged $43. before commissions. I compared the prices received the last 3 years for the same grades, sizes and colors. The prices are about 1/10 to 1/15th of what they were then.
Bryce

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635881
07/26/22 09:18 PM
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Inflation has not helped the fur market, recessions never have


Huh? what about the Carter years and into the Reagan years? Fur market was jumping. Only thing that was. Except gas prices and inflation


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: danny clifton] #7635886
07/26/22 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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Inflation has not helped the fur market, recessions never have


Huh? what about the Carter years and into the Reagan years? Fur market was jumping. Only thing that was. Except gas prices and inflation

I knew a lot of older guys when I was a kid who trapped to feed their families during the Great Depression. Could make better money trapping than they could working a job. The one fur back then that wasn't worth anything was bobcat, which has been the high dollar fur for most of my life.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: danny clifton] #7635897
07/26/22 09:40 PM
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Good pep talk

Originally Posted by danny clifton
prices are better, prices have improved, don't mean I will pay you more than your cost to produce


I'll be trapping for the love of trapping, not expecting to break even or make a profit on fur this going year!


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Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7635909
07/26/22 09:54 PM
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Groeny should get into politics.

Like Biden talking about record low unemployment, while every other economic indicator is in the toilet.

Re: MARKET UPDATE! [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7636173
07/27/22 11:05 AM
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Not much substance there.

Some numbers always helps put the “looking better” babble in perspective.

How about using some last season section averages and throwing an expected increase/decrease percentage at it? A 10% increase on. $5 average means a heck of lot more than babbling about nothing.

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