Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
[Re: Eagleye]
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It’s time Wis DNR stepped up to the plate and banned deer farms.
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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It’s time Wis DNR stepped up to the plate and banned deer farms. Yup, shut them all down.
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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07/27/22 12:37 PM
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It’s time Wis DNR stepped up to the plate and banned deer farms. Can they ??? In mich usda has juristiction over deer farms DNR only after the deer escape So depopulated farms are eligible for Gov. reimbursement and gov. run depopulation
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 01:12 PM
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They live 4 miles from me. So the question I have for those who say this is not natural, you also support getting rid of dairy cattle bred for bigger udders and milk production or beef for that are genetically altered for superior genetics, dogs, cats, I can go on. All of these animals are decedents of wild animals at one time as well. I do not believe CWD is a threat to humans so all understand. So your saying the deer in deer farms are like cattle, but bred for bigger antlers. So hunting in a fenced in area is like shooting cows in a barn yard? Whats the point of deer farms? to breed in bigger antlers, of course, we hunters should be ashamed of what we have driven deer hunting to become. Its all about the antlers, sad really.
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 01:22 PM
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They live 4 miles from me. So the question I have for those who say this is not natural, you also support getting rid of dairy cattle bred for bigger udders and milk production or beef for that are genetically altered for superior genetics, dogs, cats, I can go on. All of these animals are decedents of wild animals at one time as well. I do not believe CWD is a threat to humans so all understand. Dairy cattle ? I drink milk. Beef ? I eat burgers and steak. Doberman ? Protects me and mine. Cats ? ... got no use for. on and on ...... But, I don't eat horns (or antlers)
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 01:23 PM
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They live 4 miles from me. So the question I have for those who say this is not natural, you also support getting rid of dairy cattle bred for bigger udders and milk production or beef for that are genetically altered for superior genetics, dogs, cats, I can go on. All of these animals are decedents of wild animals at one time as well. I do not believe CWD is a threat to humans so all understand. Gosh, this is a ridiculous comparison. If beef cattle were spreading disease, that was transmissible to other animals, I would fully support culling the herd. It's like a broken record with the deer "farms". CWD...CWD...CWD
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 02:51 PM
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It’s time Wis DNR stepped up to the plate and banned deer farms. Can they ??? In mich usda has juristiction over deer farms DNR only after the deer escape So depopulated farms are eligible for Gov. reimbursement and gov. run depopulation Right, USDA has jurisdiction over these farms, because that's all they are, farms. DNR only regulates fencing to hopefully keep these disease infested genetic mutants from spreading their filth throughout the state any further.
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 03:57 PM
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The antlers on the farmed deer are from superior genetics and feed. I don't agree that the genetics are "superior," but I understand your point that they have been selectively bred for large antlers. The problem is that it is impossible to breed for just one specific trait. Genes work in groups and when you select for one trait deemed "superior" you end up also selecting for other traits that are not necessarily desired. Examples include hip displasia in German Shepherds and weak immune systems in Rottweilers and Dobermans. Those deer are unnatural with antler mass so large that it would encumber an animal in the wild. I don't like what they are doing with deer but the point that we have done something very similar with cattle, pigs, chickens, turkeys, dogs, etc. to the benefit of mankind is certainly valid.
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 04:40 PM
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Just think what those sheds are selling for.
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Re: CWD in a Wisconsin Deer Farm
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07/27/22 05:37 PM
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The antlers on the farmed deer are from superior genetics and feed. I have some good friends that raised deer and know other people that raised them as well. The deer farms are so well monitored now for disease, they are not a risk factor for its spread. Most deer raisers got out of it because it has become prohibitively expensive and difficult to meet all the legal requirements.
Keith Yes, but what is in the "feed"? With milk and other products we consume at least they have to let you know what they are feeding the animals. With deer who knows? I'll better dollars to doughnuts there is some mighty unnatural stuff going into those deer with those crazy antlers.
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