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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637736
07/29/22 02:19 PM
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So the ice age aint going to happen after all?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637742
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Well, I guess if elephants aint gonna get all hairy again maybe we ought to keep watch on lizards in case they start getting big again?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637743
07/29/22 02:21 PM
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Let's not forget Paul's cautionary tale about being civil with one another. Thin ice in parts of this thread


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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: 52Carl] #7637744
07/29/22 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by AKAjust


No but I'm not foolish enough to ignore the thousands of highly trained scientists that claim WE are contributing to the heating and CAN help control it
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Name one.



How about if I name thousands?
N.O.A.A.
And I'm sure almost all have more education than you.

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637745
07/29/22 02:23 PM
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Is Kansas gonna be an inland sea again after Antarctica melts? Should I maybe move back to the rockies while the moving is easy?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637755
07/29/22 02:36 PM
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BTW here is what the French think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_France

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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637757
07/29/22 02:42 PM
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Ask yourself why Obama who really pushed this hard, saying NYC would be under water soon spent most of his money on.....wait for it.......ocean front property!

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: AKAjust] #7637763
07/29/22 02:52 PM
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Its really simple to find out what others are doing about global warming.
Just google name of country and global warming.
Just for the hack of it try" Portugal on global warming."

WARNING you have to WANT to know the truth.
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: danny clifton] #7637771
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So the ice age aint going to happen after all?

12,000 to 14,000 years ago Albany NY was covered with 2 miles of ice. Pelosi started to tax the cavemen and the ice melted. See the government can stop climate change with taxation! smirk

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637794
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I say name one bonified scientist who says the whole man-made global warming thing is a government hoax.....


And I can guarantee you I can find a link to where he/she gets financially compensated through big energy. Any takers? It's always about the money.


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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637796
07/29/22 03:44 PM
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Still waiting on the somebody to show what the temperature should be for the good of the planet. Kinda hard to make an argument without a baseline.

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7637802
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I say name one bonified scientist who says the whole man-made global warming thing is a government hoax.....


And I can guarantee you I can find a link to where he/she gets financially compensated through big energy. Any takers? It's always about the money.


According to ecologist and former Director of Greenpeace International Patrick Moore, PhD, “there is some correlation, but little evidence, to support a direct causal relationship between CO2 and global temperature through the millennia.”

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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7637828
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I say name one bonified scientist who says the whole man-made global warming thing is a government hoax.....


And I can guarantee you I can find a link to where he/she gets financially compensated through big energy. Any takers? It's always about the money.

You can flip this the other way and every want to be scientist in gov or universities are getting gov $$ or tenure to preach the climate change gospel.

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: danny clifton] #7637830
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Is Kansas gonna be an inland sea again after Antarctica melts? Should I maybe move back to the rockies while the moving is easy?

You might have some valuable oceanfront property right there in Kansas, Danny. I'd just hold out.

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637831
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So do as I suggest.
Try looking at what another government is doing.
If you dare.
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7637854
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I dare to say its all hogwash. Been warmer and colder both, multiple times in the earths history. I dare to say the ice age thing wasn't working so now its a heat thing. All hogwash.

Weather gurus dont get the 24 hour hourly forecast right very often. So I doubt the ice age heatwave stuff can hold water either.


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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: AKAjust] #7637889
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Warming in Antarctica | Center for Science Education
https://scied.ucar.edu › ... › warming-antarctica
The Antarctic Peninsula, the part of Antarctica furthest from the South Pole, has been warming rapidly, five times faster than the global average. Since 1950, the Antarctic Peninsula has warmed almost 3°C (5.4°F).That's more warming than anywhere else in the Southern Hemisphere. Overall warmer temperatures along the peninsula are incr…



Between 1992 and 2017, Antarctica lost more than three trillion tons of ice, most of which came from the West Antarctica Ice Sheet. Some of the most dramatic impacts of warming are collapsing ice shelves in West Antarctica, which are caused by warming. The animation at the le…
See more on scied.ucar.edu

There is lots more if you dare to read about it.

BTW it took me no more thar 2 minutes to find that

Actually I knew this because I am informed. You ought tio try it.







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30 seconds and you will see the ice caps are expanding. Now they try to connect more ice to climant change and moving Ocean currents.

I for one alway believe you get more ice build up in the winter when the temperature increases. Makes perfect since

Every single piece of data used to prove warming get minupulated . They make adjustments due to man's interference or proximity to shipping lanes with the sea based data. The charts and graphs used often have different start and end dates for all the data. That so theye can make the charts correlate . But when you look at the chart at a longer period it shows the opposite of what's being pushed.

Correlation does not equal confirmation.

You are to far invested into your beliefs to even consider anything different. It's OK that's your choice. It's easier to fool someone than to get someone that's been foold to admit when they are wrong. If I had Time and thought it would do any good I could look up good info for you and we could discuss it. You could possibly prove me wrong. I looked into it very deep years back and have forgotten most of the details. But I have worked 96hrs in the last 6 days and Don't belive if I spent the time putting it together it would do any good on a closed mind and my time would be better spent on things relent to my life.


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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Providence Farm] #7637975
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The link below offers some information on the history of the iceshelves and ice on the land over the last 10k years.

Bryce

https://phys.org/news/2022-07-antarctic-ice-sheet-advanced-retreated.html

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7638022
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While I was looking at the address Bryce put up I ran into this one somewhere in it and heard stuff I had never heard before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC4WiBCoVeo

Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam? [Re: Finster] #7638062
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Thanks both videos are interesting.
I did note in the pbs video that the earth probably cooled bu the reduction of co2.
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