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Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane #7638884 07/31/22 01:20 PM 07/31/22 01:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,607 smithfield, virginia F flash OP trapper
flash OP trapper F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,607 smithfield, virginia	With Biden letting refineries make E15 is 87 still 10%?? Kind of confusing about if its safe for a 2018 60 Mercury Command Thrust. Also, safe travels for those heading home from the NTA convention.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7638913 07/31/22 02:07 PM 07/31/22 02:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,708 Wisconsin Scott__aR trapper
Scott__aR trapper Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,708 Wisconsin	E10 ('regular' unleaded gas w/10% ethanol) is rated 87 octane. E15 (unleaded gasoline w/15% ethanol) has an octane rating of 88. Always follow the engine manufacturer's fuel recommendations. E15 in marine engines has been shown to be detrimental to both engine components and performance. (Note: ethanol attracts water causing corrosion.) Mercury recommends use of a high octane, premium non-ethanol gasoline in their engines of 15 hp and higher. Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of MTPCA Member of NTA

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7638926 07/31/22 02:28 PM 07/31/22 02:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,867 meadowview, Virginia E EdP trapper
EdP trapper E Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,867 meadowview, Virginia	The pump should say on it what product is being delivered. Usually something like "May contain up to 10% ethanol."

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7638957 07/31/22 03:10 PM 07/31/22 03:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,779 Wisconsin M Mad Scientist trapper
Mad Scientist trapper M Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,779 Wisconsin	I never run any percent ethanol in anything but daily driver cars and trucks.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7638990 07/31/22 03:58 PM 07/31/22 03:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,607 smithfield, virginia F flash OP trapper
flash OP trapper F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,607 smithfield, virginia	Not one station here has it posted, reason for the question about 87.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: Mad Scientist] #7639000 07/31/22 04:07 PM 07/31/22 04:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,194 Alaska and Washington State W waggler trapper
waggler trapper W Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,194 Alaska and Washington State	Originally Posted by Mad Scientist I never run any percent ethanol in anything but daily driver cars and trucks. Ditto "My life is better than your vacation"

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7639001 07/31/22 04:08 PM 07/31/22 04:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,485 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,485 james bay frontierOnt.	We put ethanol(gas line antifreeze) in our small engine gas in winter to prevent frozen gaslines etc. Like was said-ethanol binds to the water that is in all gas and allows it to pass thru and burn up in the engine. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7639197 07/31/22 08:04 PM 07/31/22 08:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,708 Wisconsin Scott__aR trapper
Scott__aR trapper Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,708 Wisconsin	Originally Posted by Boco We put ethanol(gas line antifreeze) in our small engine gas in winter to prevent frozen gaslines etc. Like was said-ethanol binds to the water that is in all gas and allows it to pass thru and burn up in the engine. Our gas line antifreeze is a little different down here ... isopropyl and/or methyl alcohol (methanol) depending on the brand. They (alcohols) all do the same thing ... filling the spaces between water molecules, lowering the freezing temperature of the water within fuel. Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of MTPCA Member of NTA

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: Scott__aR] #7639219 07/31/22 08:26 PM 07/31/22 08:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 62,989 Minnesota 330-Trapper trapper
330-Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 62,989 Minnesota	Originally Posted by Scott__aR Originally Posted by Boco We put ethanol(gas line antifreeze) in our small engine gas in winter to prevent frozen gaslines etc. Like was said-ethanol binds to the water that is in all gas and allows it to pass thru and burn up in the engine. Our gas line antifreeze is a little different down here ... isopropyl and/or methyl alcohol (methanol) depending on the brand. They (alcohols) all do the same thing ... filling the spaces between water molecules, lowering the freezing temperature of the water within fuel. The Red bottle only binds do moisture and carry it out. NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7639221 07/31/22 08:28 PM 07/31/22 08:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 10,823 Asheville, NC C charles trapper
charles trapper C Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 10,823 Asheville, NC	In NC our weights and standards group (part of Dept of Agriculture I think) inspects all pumps for accuracy and they require the ethanol designation as well.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7639274 07/31/22 09:52 PM 07/31/22 09:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,532 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,532 Green County Wisconsin	anything after 2006 should be flex fuel and able to take E10 , E15 and E85 , check your owners manual my sons 2011 F150 states e85 safe right on the gas filler most post 2002 are good for E15 and E15 is the only thing you can get in many places America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: Mad Scientist] #7639277 07/31/22 09:54 PM 07/31/22 09:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 17,740 Central Oregon AntiGov trapper
AntiGov trapper Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 17,740 Central Oregon	Originally Posted by Mad Scientist I never run any percent ethanol in anything but daily driver cars and trucks. X2 Report a post club - Non member

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7639281 07/31/22 10:06 PM 07/31/22 10:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,532 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,532 Green County Wisconsin	ahh mercury outboard not mercury car , I shouldn't read without my glasses on I try not to run any ethanol in my boat motor but check the manual Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 07/31/22 10:06 PM. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question about 10% Ethanol in 87 octane [Re: flash] #7639291 07/31/22 10:21 PM 07/31/22 10:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 697 Iowa, E eedup trapper
eedup trapper E Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 697 Iowa,	Is it possible your state has mandated ethanol so they don't need to put it on the pumps

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