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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: 20scout] #7638973
07/31/22 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 20scout
My senior year I was determined to trap hard opening week of trapping and talked to the principal about it. He wasn't sure and asked that I stop by again Friday after school and he would have an answer for me then. I got all my school work done and that Friday dropped by his office as requested. His answer was no as he said that if he let me take the time off then he would have allow others to do the same. Didn't make science to me but his word was final. Shockingly Monday morning found me going to school smelling like skunk and was asked to leave. Happy to ablige off I went to run my life. Friday the school called and asked I I had planned on ever coming back. Understandably my parents where quite upset with me,, that is until I showed them my fur check for $2500. That was more than what my parents made in a month. Nothing more was said about missing school afterwards.


Wow, that's going to be a hard thing for me this year with the opening day for rats starting on a Tuesday. Wish fur was still worth something, so I could show a 2500$ check.

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: Flint Hill fur] #7638974
07/31/22 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Flint Hill fur
Keepem coming fellas. Thoroughly enjoy the stories


I enjoy them very much because I've never been able to see high fur prices and I can just imagine the happiness rolling up on a 100$ coyote or fox and knowing you can pay off your gas for a few months.

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: w side rd 151] #7638977
07/31/22 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by w side rd 151
One of the things I learned from Charlie Dobbins was to keep a note book Record what you caught what type of set ,lure , ,trap was use at each set . An as you had time put you info in an organized manner I started trapping in the 60,s and did not start my notebook until about 1980 .I do have some general info from prior years but started with more detail in the 1980,s I can look back and tell you what I caught ,where etc I also have some notes about supplies I purchased and prices I received for my finished pelts It is just a 3 ring binder with basis notes .Nothing fancy and not real detailed or time consuming to keep track of But now 50 plus years later a gold mine to me as far as remembering my journey as a trapper .Charlie Dobbins often said let the animal show you what it is doing . Keeping a notebook is a big help to becoming a knowledgeable trapper .


My fur buyer and mentor also told me to do this for this next season and I plan to do it because everything he has told me has worked out so far.

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7638997
07/31/22 04:06 PM
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The State rendezvous/conventions were fantastic!


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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7638999
07/31/22 04:06 PM
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I was just figuring it out in the late 1970's and early 1980s. The competition was so incredible that you had to be the first with the most and the best. We all think back and remember high prices, but I also remember the spotlighters, the thieves and the people who would make a set on either side of yours on the creek bank to cut you off. The fights and the anger and the hurt feelings were a part of it as well. It was tough to rise above it all. I learned to give coons a place to hide, or down them, on my road lines because if you didn't, some spotlighter would pull up to the bridge and see the eyes. People hiring young guys to go out and put in sets just to get a jump on everyone else. I remember a guy who hired four high-school wrestlers in two boats to set muskrat lodges on a public slough. The first few hours of the season they put out 400 traps. One guy in our town shot another trapper who he thought was trapping too close.

I quit a good job to trap full time and it was well worth it, but the stress was off the charts. Seemed like everyone trapped and so many people ran hounds at night. After the coons denned up I would go into haymows and dig them out, I would also tear apart the walls of abandoned farmhouses to get to the coons. One time I cut a slice out of a hollow den tree to get at the coon and pulled out five of them. Another time I used an extension ladder to get up a cottonwood and barb-wired 8 coon out of that hollow. Those 8 coon paid my rent for two months. I had three kids, and trapping mink and coon raised them, put food on the table and clothes on their back.

I mostly sold coon in the round as a got them, but one year I paid a guy $2.00 each to skin them and put them up. I told him to be ready because I was going to bring him a lot of coon but he still got way behind; I brought him over 100 in the first two days and then about 30 a day for 3-4 more days; he never did catch up, I had to take some of them whole to a buyer before they spoiled. I put heavy load springs on my pickup to carry the weight of all those coon.

I would get up at 1:30 am and be at the first set by 2. I would try to have as much of the vulnerable areas checked before daylight to reduce theft. Then I would check the sets that were back off the road for the rest of the day. When I got home I would load the coon into a trailer and my wife would take them to the furbuyer the next morning. I would be in bed at dark and back up at 1:30. I simply could not do that today at my age! Then as the water froze up after the first week to 10 days of season in northern Iowa, I would move south and trap other areas or hit a river with a johnboat. I trapped all over the state but never did much trapping in other states.

Anyway that's some of my memories good and bad of the years from 1979 to 1987.

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: BernieB.] #7639012
07/31/22 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
I was just figuring it out in the late 1970's and early 1980s. The competition was so incredible that you had to be the first with the most and the best. We all think back and remember high prices, but I also remember the spotlighters, the thieves and the people who would make a set on either side of yours on the creek bank to cut you off. The fights and the anger and the hurt feelings were a part of it as well. It was tough to rise above it all. I learned to give coons a place to hide, or down them, on my road lines because if you didn't, some spotlighter would pull up to the bridge and see the eyes. People hiring young guys to go out and put in sets just to get a jump on everyone else. I remember a guy who hired four high-school wrestlers in two boats to set muskrat lodges on a public slough. The first few hours of the season they put out 400 traps. One guy in our town shot another trapper who he thought was trapping too close.

I quit a good job to trap full time and it was well worth it, but the stress was off the charts. Seemed like everyone trapped and so many people ran hounds at night. After the coons denned up I would go into haymows and dig them out, I would also tear apart the walls of abandoned farmhouses to get to the coons. One time I cut a slice out of a hollow den tree to get at the coon and pulled out five of them. Another time I used an extension ladder to get up a cottonwood and barb-wired 8 coon out of that hollow. Those 8 coon paid my rent for two months. I had three kids, and trapping mink and coon raised them, put food on the table and clothes on their back.

I mostly sold coon in the round as a got them, but one year I paid a guy $2.00 each to skin them and put them up. I told him to be ready because I was going to bring him a lot of coon but he still got way behind; I brought him over 100 in the first two days and then about 30 a day for 3-4 more days; he never did catch up, I had to take some of them whole to a buyer before they spoiled. I put heavy load springs on my pickup to carry the weight of all those coon.

I would get up at 1:30 am and be at the first set by 2. I would try to have as much of the vulnerable areas checked before daylight to reduce theft. Then I would check the sets that were back off the road for the rest of the day. When I got home I would load the coon into a trailer and my wife would take them to the furbuyer the next morning. I would be in bed at dark and back up at 1:30. I simply could not do that today at my age! Then as the water froze up after the first week to 10 days of season in northern Iowa, I would move south and trap other areas or hit a river with a johnboat. I trapped all over the state but never did much trapping in other states.

Anyway that's some of my memories good and bad of the years from 1979 to 1987.

Very interesting insight on how you ran and managed your line I have always told people what you need to do is develop a system that works for you and than refine it .The management of my line was a major part of the satisfaction of trapping. Where to make sets how many to set when to pull and go to a new location are all up And when you do it right it is just pure fun

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639183
07/31/22 07:47 PM
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Lot's of good stories here . Good memories . Was just getting started trapping the last few years of the boom . As mentioned - You learned fast how to not leave sign that you'd been there or sure as ever someone would help themselves to your gear and catch


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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639189
07/31/22 07:54 PM
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^^^^
How many others would carry a roll of T.P. so when you walked out of the brush no one would want to go see what you were up to.
I've done that several times when trapping marten and cats along popular snowmachine trails..


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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639260
07/31/22 09:31 PM
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I like it the way it is now. No competition and plenty of fur!

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: proratman] #7639278
07/31/22 09:56 PM
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No matter what I love it but I would like to at least pay off my gas which may or may not happen, who knows?

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639283
07/31/22 10:07 PM
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Target what you can sell for the most $. Cats

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: Flint Hill fur] #7639303
07/31/22 10:39 PM
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I haven't seen or heard of a single cat east river unless they're within 30 miles of the river. I wish I had some cats to trap though.

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639406
08/01/22 06:38 AM
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Here is a receipt for some supplies I got some time in the 1980's .There is no date on it but I am certain that it was in that time period .Lure was $2 to $ 3 dollars an oz . And a dozen Victor 1.5 coil springs cost $32.50 That trap right now is listed for $9.75 each. So a $70 red fox was worth 2 dozen traps than And now it might take 2 or 3 red fox or racoon to get you one trap. My complete list on this order was for $59.00 .Again less than 1 red fox or 2 nice coons during the 70.s/80.s era To be a successful trapper you need to be an optimist .And you have to have it in your mind that right now is the best time to accomplish whatever goals you set .And than go and do it a have fun with it . [Linked Image]

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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639415
08/01/22 06:52 AM
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I began selling lure in 1984 and my prices were in line with the others at $2.75 per ounce. Today at $7.50, and with the cost of ingredients now, versus then, lures have almost kept up with the cost of inflation (they should cost $7.75) but not with the cost of ingredients. Back in 1984, there were glands to be had EVERYWHERE but today a gland is a rare and wondrous thing.

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639431
08/01/22 07:08 AM
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Had to prospect more back then. Not a big deal to catch 100 coyotes now but it was then. Milligan got 400 one year. An amazing catch for the time. Unfortunately he made a lot of landowners mad. Still some bad blood here in KS for trappers cause of him.

I think today its a waste of time to walk anyplace. Then it was not. By walking I didnt get a lot of stuff stolen. I was trapping a lot of BLM. I just walked from the house. Led a horse sometimes to carry stuff when setting up a new line. Had a german shepard dog I put a pack on when checking. I skinned as I caught instead of carrying dead animals. Limited how many traps I ran but theft was not a big problem. Nobody was getting in my shed without that dog waking me up.


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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: danny clifton] #7639463
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It helped a lot if you knew who your competition was and how they operated. The spot lighters were the worst on stealing fur/traps

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639468
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There have been many changes to trapping over the last 40 plus years in PA Otter ,fisher, and bobcat are now legal . Only in limited numbers and for a short season however Beaver trapping regulations have been changed to allow a greater chance of taking them Cable releases are also legal during a special season and anyone wanting to use them must take a training class . It was said during the 1980's that PA did not have coyotes ow they exist through state .It could be said in some ways that right now is the good old days For me my most enjoyable trapping years where from about 1994 through about the last 2 years .REALLY LOW fur prices and declining health have limited my time spent trapping

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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639502
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Well me and my buddy trapped lots of rats and coon from 80-83, our sophomore thru senior year. We could be seen at 4:00 Am riding
our ten speeds through town. The cops knew us. Seemed like every little drainage had rats and every feeder creek on our local lake
had piles of them. One day at school a buddy was telling everyone how he took out the trash at midnight at the local pizza hut and a pile
of coon jumped out of the dumpster, of course we were there that evening and caught three on the trails up to it, that was a $90 morning
of coon and we ended up taking 11 from there. We also had several local buyers. He would grade out our rats and we'd just sell him the
xlarges, go right around the corner and that buyer would grade out our rats and we'd have 20 XL with him as well because back then he
compared them to each other, oh the good ole days. When you'd get $3000 for fur that was big money for a 16 year old back then.

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Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639542
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PA had a 3-beaver limit at one time, my 5 siblings and I got our limit and received a little under $900 for all those beaver!

Re: Trapping in the 70s [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7639550
08/01/22 11:07 AM
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Was not trapping then(born in 71) but a friend who's been helping us get started trapped with his brother (still does)and he's told me several times they made at least twice as much trapping in a few months than they did working their full time construction jobs. Were usually laid off by trapping season so could go all day everyday.

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