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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7641983
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You are both correct. Pheasants raise one clutch a year if they are lucky. When you see different sizes of pheasant chicks standing in the road together, look closely, there are multiple hens there. Pheasants nest until they hatch a brood or body condition says no more eggs. They will try up to 4 times in a season, but they don't kick week old offspring to the curb to start the nesting process over. The idea of 2nd hatches etc is commonly accepted so don't feel bad, but it just ain't true.

Pheasants are awesome on the dinner table though.

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7641988
08/04/22 11:49 AM
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The last quail I saw was about 10 years ago, and they flew across the road into a private preserve.

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7641996
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SW KS at one time, rivaled SD. Its over now with severe drought, but having hunted both SD and KS, Kansas was unbelievable and allowed 4 rooster bag limit. Access was simple and the WIHA stuff was great too. Lots of pheasants and quail. SD certainly had a lot of pheasants but access was much much tougher.

The simple fact now is pheasants are struggling nearly everywhere. Large scale drought, loss of CRP to haying and grazing or contract expiration have hugely reduced suitable habitat. Its got nothing to do with overhunting, its 100% habitat related.

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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Ringneck1] #7642145
08/04/22 03:42 PM
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sorry I wasn't more clear--- didn't mean to insinuate they were hunted out, just that when their habitat, but especially water is non-existent, perhaps it would have been prudent to shut the season down to save what few survivors existed to repopulate. Kansas use to be THE PLACE-- 40 yrs ago--- they also use to hatch and stock lots of birds. Main hatchery was near Meade. They no longer do that.

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642149
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kdwp sucks for many reasons....very corrupt/inept agency.



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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Ringneck1] #7642159
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Originally Posted by Ringneck1
You are both correct. Pheasants raise one clutch a year if they are lucky. When you see different sizes of pheasant chicks standing in the road together, look closely, there are multiple hens there. Pheasants nest until they hatch a brood or body condition says no more eggs. They will try up to 4 times in a season, but they don't kick week old offspring to the curb to start the nesting process over. The idea of 2nd hatches etc is commonly accepted so don't feel bad, but it just ain't true.

Pheasants are awesome on the dinner table though.

Good post

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Marty] #7642216
08/04/22 05:36 PM
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kdwp sucks for many reasons....very corrupt/inept agency.


Yep.

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642237
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Coyote Clayton is from KS, he hunts birds there

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642245
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He's s central I believe. More quail an less pheasant. Awesome area

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642292
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160 acres of heaven equals plenty of pheasants

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642365
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State park archery pavilion.

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Told the manager when they were setting the forms that it looked very level. He bragged pn how he used a laser level. Told him it needed To ne pitched for drainage and he basically told me I to pass off.



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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642380
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Rookie on the power trowel I'd say. Level is fine if it's done right.


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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642388
08/04/22 09:32 PM
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I never seen an outdoor concrete pad that was level....they did not use a power trowel...it was done in house by maintenance/park rangers. When they built a new guard shack at the entrance they framed it, put the windows and doors in and then put the wall sheathing over the window/door flanges. Talk to them and they will tell you how expert they are at everything...



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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Marty] #7642399
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Originally Posted by Marty
I never seen an outdoor concrete pad that was level....they did not use a power trowel...it was done in house by maintenance/park rangers. When they built a new guard shack at the entrance they framed it, put the windows and doors in and then put the wall sheathing over the window/door flanges. Talk to them and they will tell you how expert they are at everything...

I stand corrected, thanks for the clarification Marty.


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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7642401
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I did not mean to correct you yukon....just giving my opinion. Appreciate your input and have a good evening.



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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Marty] #7642405
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Originally Posted by Marty
I did not mean to correct you yukon....just giving my opinion. Appreciate your input and have a good evening.

I wasn't being sarcastic, obviously if a bunch of hair brains did the job, they deserve the criticism...I figured it was contracted. No hard feelings at all.


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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Marty] #7643516
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My pet peeve. Why does everyone feel like they are an expert at virtually everything? At some point ya gotta be willing to ask for advice or help. 95% of hirees now literally know everything, has built everything, invented the internet, overhauled any engine you might discuss, yet cannot check oil.

KS guys, I do have to point out that at least ks parks would build an archery pavilion. Over here we'd be $60-70 k in before deciding that the upkeep on a facility like that makes it unfeasible. Someone might have to go out there and empty the trash can and that's a deal breaker!

Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7643519
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Yup the guy in charge of building that thinks he knows everything.



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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7643531
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The number one job of Wildlife and Parks here in KS is to sell licenses. There has been some great programs in the past that get discontinued. Two biggies come to mind, Pheasant hatching and walleye rearing.

Ask them about rabbit, prairie chicken and quail decline, HABITAT, they all shout. But there is PLENTY of unchanged habitat the animals have disappeared from. Plenty.


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Re: Upland hunting January in Kansas [Re: Don] #7643533
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Nobody from the state wants to talk about no worms or bugs anyplace with row crops. They dont want to talk about fewer bugs even where there are no row crops either. June here in Burg , at night, there would be tens of thousands of blinking lightning bugs. Now you dont see many at all. I dont see bees in my yard on the dandelions anymore either. Good luck finding a muskrat turd or a mink track any place around here. Turkey numbers are declining also. I think that goes back to the no bug thing

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