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Who is your car reporting to? #7644612
08/07/22 05:17 PM
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data mining

Unreal how blatant they are about doing this. I would think it would be illegal.


Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644635
08/07/22 05:57 PM
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You would think they would have more important things to do than track and study an old bush trapper with a new truck.
I wonder how much the guy makes an hour studying me?


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644636
08/07/22 05:57 PM
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The government wants all the info it can get about all of us...


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644638
08/07/22 06:00 PM
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But the phone data on 2000 Mules can't be trusted.


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Marty] #7644646
08/07/22 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
The government wants all the info it can get about all of us...


I dont give a rats a-- who wants to study me.
If they get in my face they'll be spitting chickletts.

Last edited by Boco; 08/07/22 06:10 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644648
08/07/22 06:11 PM
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That's right. If you can't trust big government and multinationals, then who can you trust?


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644652
08/07/22 06:14 PM
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If they want to waste their time on a nobody like me I say good for them-have at er.
You fellers must be extremely important people-at least in your own minds,lol.
Either that or you did way too much acid back in the day.

Last edited by Boco; 08/07/22 06:15 PM.

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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644656
08/07/22 06:17 PM
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That's just it, none of us or what we do are important until it is to the watchers.


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Boco] #7644657
08/07/22 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
If they want to waste their time on a nobody like me I say good for them-have at er.
You fellers must be extremely important people-at least in your own minds,lol.
Either that or you did way too much acid back in the day.

The queen and Trudeau knows where your traps are and how many lynx you've caught....and beavers...


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Boco] #7644661
08/07/22 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Marty
The government wants all the info it can get about all of us...


I dont give a rats a-- who wants to study me.
If they get in my face they'll be spitting chickletts.

ever wonder why they might be studying you? The gov. is not now or will it ever be there to "help" . They do not need to know that I stopped at the local gas station for some fuel and a 6-pack after work. Since I am paying for (taxes) the guy that is watching me - I should have a little say in who andwhat they are watching (i don't) and how much they are getting paid(i don't). If they have reason to believe I am involved in some illegal activity then they have a right to watch (prove me innocent or guilty). I have no reason to hide what I do ----- They have no reason to watch -- less govt info and employment is better for all involved.

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644662
08/07/22 06:23 PM
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trudeau is the queen.. laugh


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644665
08/07/22 06:28 PM
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A lot of it i(but not all, obviously) s about improving driveability and diagnostic issues. By monitoring average driving habits and pattern failures, manufacturers can make better reprogramming updates.

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644666
08/07/22 06:29 PM
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Unenumerated Rights


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644681
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If you think your car is bad, your cell phone is 10X worse.

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: loosegoose] #7644694
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
A lot of it i(but not all, obviously) s about improving driveability and diagnostic issues. By monitoring average driving habits and pattern failures, manufacturers can make better reprogramming updates.


Right, they are collecting "right down to people's address, emails and even photos." to improve driveability and diagnose your private life, but it's all for our own good I'm sure.

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644744
08/07/22 07:57 PM
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I am more worried WHO they are selling it to.


Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644751
08/07/22 08:02 PM
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Over there.
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Over there.
My car doesn't have new enough technology for this. I guess all they have on me is my phone.

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644807
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Some of you are still in the stone age. It's not people looking at the data it computers. A single person is not so important but with data on thousands they can track and predict future trends, movements, and how well the latest fraud schemes are working on the general population.

Last edited by Providence Farm; 08/07/22 10:05 PM.
Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Marty] #7644842
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Originally Posted by Marty
trudeau is the queen.. laugh


No, SHE'S just a little princess!


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644872
08/07/22 10:32 PM
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I don't give a hoot hoo watches me they just need to speed up to see what they are missing

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: walleye101] #7644879
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by loosegoose
A lot of it i(but not all, obviously) s about improving driveability and diagnostic issues. By monitoring average driving habits and pattern failures, manufacturers can make better reprogramming updates.


Right, they are collecting "right down to people's address, emails and even photos." to improve driveability and diagnose your private life, but it's all for our own good I'm sure.

More like idle time, misfire data, air/fuel ratio data, CEL data, average speeds and acceleration, braking data, etc etc etc. All can be used to come up with computer updates for driveability improvements, especially with hybrid and electric vehicles.

I'm sure you noticed that I explicitly stated not all the data collected is being used for such things though.

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7644908
08/07/22 11:47 PM
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The one they hacked was hooked to over 200 sensors and no option to turn any off.They were sending pictures as well as regular data. The potential for identity theft is pretty high without them deciding to hijack even more data.


Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7645028
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The info they are tracking might also be used to determine the circumstances that pertain to an accident if you become involved in one .Speed ,braking etc info could be used by police and insurance companies The bottom line is you /all of us are being tracked everywhere we go and everything we do Traffic cameras, store security , purchasing trends are part of everyday living.I saw recently one of the state wildlife agencies had put up trail games without permission on a sportsman club property in hope of catching any illegal hunting The court system ruled that to be against the law and they where made to remove them . But in todays world all of us could be under surveillance at any time or place And some will say if you are obeying the law you have nothing to worry about .On the other hand I do not always trust due process

Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7645035
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When I bought a 2021 truck, i got the most basic "radio" you can get. No cell connection with it, but it does have a satellite transmitter/receiver that allows you to remotely start the engine or lock/unlock the doors with a cell phone. I disconnected the satellite antennae so hopefully that connection is broken. The built-in compass no longer works, but I'd rather do without the compass than have my data transmitted for any computer hacker, legal or otherwise, all over the stratosphere.

I take measures to reduce my exposure through my cell phone and all internet connections, too.

I'm a law abiding citizen with nothing to fear. But I feel there's a good chance I may someday be a particular target as an individual who is a threat to the existing order. I sure hope not.


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7645046
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I don't care for the feature that "helps" me steer. The little ladys Santa Fe even turns the windshield wipers on by itself when a few raindrops hit the windshield.
I do like the alarms that tell me if someone is in the no-zone if I use the turn signal to change lanes. There's also a screen down by the speedometer that shows you a camera shot beside and behind you when you turn on a signal which I don't use. I'd rather look in the mirrors. There's also an overhead camera you can watch when you're backing up. How that works I have no idea.


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7645175
08/08/22 01:31 PM
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It appears most don't mind their 4th amendment rights being trampled as long as we are told it is for our own good. We might as well let them just toss the constitution out. We know they are keeping purchase records of firearms as well as our personal calls being monitored. Facial recognition and cameras abound so our every move can be accounted for. I am sure the founding fathers didn't envision this as model for freedom.


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Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: Drifter] #7645190
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They make a = bag. Or you can use aliuminum foil To put phone in. I know how to disrupt signal to = black box. We did it on friends wifes 2020 model car. = OnStar called her. Said when a signal is lost like that = car is often stolen and put in container ship. Me and my buddy thought OnStar calling was halarious!! His wife was not happy

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Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

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Life member NTA , and GA Trappers assoc .
Re: Who is your car reporting to? [Re: warrior] #7645806
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Originally Posted by warrior
That's just it, none of us or what we do are important until it is to the watchers.


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