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Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill #7645343
08/08/22 05:55 PM
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Congress isn't even bashful anymore about spending money it doesn't have. Taking wildlife license fees/funds and giving them to bunny huggers and others. I don't mind spending money on wildlife -- any wildlife -- but it galls me that sportsmen get treated like third class citizens AND get to pay for non-consumptive users.

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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645352
08/08/22 06:28 PM
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This is what happends when the president don't belong in the office he stole. Also the demonrat ate in charge.

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645359
08/08/22 06:47 PM
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Over there.
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Over there.
And yet sportsmen keep voting left.

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645362
08/08/22 06:53 PM
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Not around here. Even local elections have changed parties because of the liberals.


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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645372
08/08/22 07:10 PM
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One that really hurt us is when they get reimbursed for all the legal fees when going to court. That is in a win loose or draw. My understanding is it became the norm back during the Clinton administration. He also tried to dip into the Dingle fund we all pay for by a tax on all sporting goods.


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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Drifter] #7645828
08/09/22 09:49 AM
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This is why we all need to be up to date on what is going on behind the scenes Hunters and trappers pay the bills concerning wildlife issues Because most of us just wan to be left alone to enjoy our sport those that are determined to stop us slowly eat away at the edges A little here and a little there a little at a time The antis don't want to regulate what we are doing they want to shut it down completely

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645836
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Yes, even worse they now have pork belly spending for foreign countries.

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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645874
08/09/22 11:17 AM
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Ok, did any of you actually read this?
It would give state the money to manage imperiled wildlife that right now they have to manage without any federal funding.
Take grizz in Wyoming. Our state must manage for grizzly bears but yet we can not hunt them or raise funds for their management with hunting licenses.
Big money is spent every year on these bears, and some wolves without the state having a way to raise those funds for the management.

This is not a bad bill but the price tag is too high.

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645893
08/09/22 11:42 AM
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If they plan on paying for it. the need a tax on kayakers, hikers, bird watchers, campers. and other like recreation. In my state kayakers don't have to buy a sticker for their kayaks. But It's their drowning hind ends that our DNR is for ever pulling out of the rivers.

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645894
08/09/22 11:43 AM
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Game species will take a back seat even more.
The hook and bullet public have been being ignored more and more over recent years.
This will not help that scenario.
More liberal biologists will be hired and over time they will become administrators running these former state fish and game agencies. It’s already been happening, but this will speed up the process.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has been overtaken by the liberal mob for years now. I saw it happen during the course of my career with a state game agency.
More ridiculous research projects will be funded, and nothing will be accomplished.
I could go on and on but it’s depressing…………….

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: teepee2] #7645910
08/09/22 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by teepee2
If they plan on paying for it. the need a tax on kayakers, hikers, bird watchers, campers. and other like recreation. In my state kayakers don't have to buy a sticker for their kayaks. But It's their drowning hind ends that our DNR is for ever pulling out of the rivers.

YES!!!


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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: teepee2] #7645929
08/09/22 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by teepee2
If they plan on paying for it. the need a tax on kayakers, hikers, bird watchers, campers. and other like recreation. In my state kayakers don't have to buy a sticker for their kayaks. But It's their drowning hind ends that our DNR is for ever pulling out of the rivers.



Careful there, do you really want the granola eaters at the table when it comes time make decisions.


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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: warrior] #7645976
08/09/22 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by teepee2
If they plan on paying for it. the need a tax on kayakers, hikers, bird watchers, campers. and other like recreation. In my state kayakers don't have to buy a sticker for their kayaks. But It's their drowning hind ends that our DNR is for ever pulling out of the rivers.



Careful there, do you really want the granola eaters at the table when it comes time make decisions.

They're at the table already Warrior.


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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7645988
08/09/22 02:22 PM
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They own the table

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: wytex] #7646064
08/09/22 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wytex
Ok, did any of you actually read this?
It would give state the money to manage imperiled wildlife that right now they have to manage without any federal funding.
Take grizz in Wyoming. Our state must manage for grizzly bears but yet we can not hunt them or raise funds for their management with hunting licenses.
Big money is spent every year on these bears, and some wolves without the state having a way to raise those funds for the management.

This is not a bad bill but the price tag is too high.


Of course they didn’t.

It’s a good bill. Looks like funding is mostly settled.

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Either way, I’m ok if my tax dollars go to this, rather than gender studies in Afghanistan or most other places it goes.

Plus, game species will still benefit from this, since the PR funds that are currently used for non-game species will be able to be used for game species.


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7646073
08/09/22 05:25 PM
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Since Lazarus is a lawyer, and I am not, I'm assuming I'm missing something. I don't see in that article anywhere where it says they are taking funds from the taxes sportsmen pay to pay for non game species?


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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: DelawareRob] #7646079
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It’s a good bill. Looks like funding is mostly settled.

[Linked Image]

Either way, I’m ok if my tax dollars go to this, rather than gender studies in Afghanistan or most other places it goes.

Plus, game species will still benefit from this, since the PR funds that are currently used for non-game species will be able to be used for game species.


[/quote] I am glad that is what will happen in your state -- in my state they will use the money to further destroy grazing, timber harvest, and most other farm uses. As well as using that money to further limit our hunting/ fishing opportunities because of some endangered Protozoa or some such bs. I am all for management of all game and nongame species -- just not zero harvest and zero habitat management. That is all our taxes will go to here.

Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: H2ORat] #7646196
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Originally Posted by H2ORat

It’s a good bill. Looks like funding is mostly settled.

[Linked Image]

Either way, I’m ok if my tax dollars go to this, rather than gender studies in Afghanistan or most other places it goes.

Plus, game species will still benefit from this, since the PR funds that are currently used for non-game species will be able to be used for game species.


I am glad that is what will happen in your state -- in my state they will use the money to further destroy grazing, timber harvest, and most other farm uses. As well as using that money to further limit our hunting/ fishing opportunities because of some endangered Protozoa or some such bs. I am all for management of all game and nongame species -- just not zero harvest and zero habitat management. That is all our taxes will go to here.
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Sorry to hear that. I hope you are involved in advisory council meetings to stop that nonsense as much as you can.



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Re: Pork!! Pork!! and More Pork!! Wildlife bill [Re: Lazarus] #7646316
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D-Rob --- I have been much more active --- I could also not say the same thing 3 years ago. Too little -too late I am afraid.

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