Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/10/22 07:25 PM
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https://youtu.be/qyA19-polq8https://youtu.be/VuFdXdzqbB4Like everything it depends on where you live and the totality of what happened and the circumstances surrounding it IMHO if they find nothing and cause damage looking they should be on the hood for not just the damage but also for your distress and inconvenience, if they find what they are searching for then it all fall on you that’s my take on it anyways
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/10/22 07:34 PM
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danny clifton
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My son had to pay a dealer a couple thousand to put his VW back together about 10-12 years ago. Was in Canada on a business trip. U.S. border patrol on the return trip said their dog alerted. He even had to replace parts that disappeared. Their liability was 0.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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My son had to pay a dealer a couple thousand to put his VW back together about 10-12 years ago. Was in Canada on a business trip. U.S. border patrol on the return trip said their dog alerted. He even had to replace parts that disappeared. Their liability was 0. The use of dogs needs to go as well.
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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government will treat you how they want to and there may be nothing legal you can do about it..
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/10/22 10:50 PM
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government will treat you how they want to and there may be nothing legal you can do about it.. Just ask Trump.
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/11/22 01:36 AM
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The Gubmint compensate for property damage caused when serving and executing a search warrant? Usually a “no knock warrant”. Ha haha h ha!
Actually through litigation, I have forced state and local Gubmints to very substantially compensate clients in certain specific situations. Never had a similar case involving the Federal agencies.
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/11/22 10:19 AM
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danny clifton
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Cmon. You know its a ticketable offense to block a fire hydrant. You get your windows broke or paint scratched I say to bad. Are you special? Is your convenience worth more than someone elses life or property???? Get real.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/11/22 10:23 AM
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They had my son in a room while they were searching. He was questioning an agent and I am sure no longer being polite. The agent said "I am the alpha male here" things really went south then. Bottom line is the dog will "alert" anytime they want to go fishing which is what happened to my son.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Question on warrant raids on a business or home
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08/11/22 04:42 PM
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[/i][i]Not responsible and some purposely damage property as a form of punishment. Like they like to say. You might beat the rap but not the ride.
This is a realistic explanation of what happens frequently.
If it's important enough to tear up stuff, then so be it. But if they do, they MUST be REQUIRED to put it back the way they found it, regardless of what they found. If not an extension of the 4th amendment, it needs to be. Agency or entity what was responsible, along with named persons conducting the search also being personally liable for any damage they cause.
This may happen in a movie or in a dream, but rarely if ever happens in reality. This may happen where the house number or street on the warrant is incorrect. So the cops go to the wrong house and beat the door in with a battering ram and drag people out of bed, cuff them, and make them lay on the living room floor in their undies or nekkid while a cop hovers over them with a gun. Then they realize that someone screwed up. For example 650 19th Street NE is a poor old sort of rough decaying neighborhood. 650 19th Street NW is a very affluent neighborhood with old classic very expensive homes. So the NE or NW can make all the difference. And yes, I had those clients. And yes, the city paid out a large damage settlement.
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