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How can they report this with a straight face? #7648035
08/11/22 11:57 PM
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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648037
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The Lutheran stance on marring same sex couples and the like shows how far off biblical teaching that church is so anything they do is no surprise to me.

Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648057
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I just read the article; blah, blah blah, all about freakishness.

The article states that the ELCA has a membership of 3.3 million. But what it doesn't say is that the church is projected to have fewer than 67,000 member (and only 16,000 attendees) by 2050. People are leaving the church in droves; this is encouraging to see than when lies and heresy is taught, that people will up and leave.

Liberals aren't too smart; they always seem to double-down on a loosing proposition.


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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648059
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"Lutheran" is a broad category. ELCA, wisconsin and missouri synods (all lutherans) all take a different stance on this issue.

Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: Providence Farm] #7648066
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
The Lutheran stance on marring same sex couples and the like shows how far off biblical teaching that church is so anything they do is no surprise to me.

So what about the catholic approach by hiding priests that were or are child molesters? Been know for decades.

Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648077
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So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: danny clifton] #7648080
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?


Not really how it works danny. If you're sincere in your desires, whatever they are, pray to the One who made you and ask for His guidance in all of it.
Oh and there's only one denomination and it's the Church ordained by Jesus, the Risen Son of God.
The rest we work through because humans, for some mysterious reason, have been made part of God's restorative Plan.

Blessings,
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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: danny clifton] #7648085
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?

I would say refer to the bible for proper guidance, denominations are really just a man made creation.

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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648088
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Which bible?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648090
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English would be an easier read danny. Unless you read Spanish or French.
The Bible promotes the idea that faith leads to understanding and not the other way around.
Remember the words of Augustine from the 4th century
"believe that you may understand"

or Anselm from the 11th century; “I pray thee, O God, let me know thee and love thee so that I may rejoice in thee.”

We don't study our way to faith.

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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648099
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What is neurodivergent? It sounds like everyone in that article is trying to out victimhood everyone else.

Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648106
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BandB, it's a categorical condition that those who work with autistic people use which has grown from those humble beginnings. It's a category of people whose brains don't function in a way that medicine considers "normal."

Blessings,
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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: danny clifton] #7648118
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?


Danny
Whichever one your willing to throw few bucks in the donation plate.. You used to be able to get free bibles in motel rooms.


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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: danny clifton] #7648122
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?


Just ask the first Cristian you come across and he / she will tell you that his/ her way is the right one. Make sure they have a zipper on their pants or you will end up having to sell your truck and get a horse. ... Does wonders for your electric bill though. So there is that

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Let's go Brandon

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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648126
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The Gideons usually hand out the KJV or New King James.

And like Job, everything we have can be taken away, and then what?
Most blame "them" when the brokenness of this world is in each of us.
No exceptions to that fact.
The wages of sin are death and all are headed that way.
No exceptions to that fact either.

Always good to know the backdrop of the story as well as the characters in it grin
The mystery has been revealed.

Blessings,
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?


Just ask the first Cristian you come across and he / she will tell you that his/ her way is the right one. Make sure they have a zipper on their pants or you will end up having to sell your truck and get a horse. ... Doe wonders for your electric bill though. So there is that


Huh? You hit land again Scubby?

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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648177
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Danny, there will be people from "all denominations" in Heaven, anyone who says otherwise lacks understanding.


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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: danny clifton] #7648195
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again

Won't make any difference. God initiates salvation, not man.

Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: danny clifton] #7648205
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
So if I decide to try and believe again, which denomination has the correct interpretations and dogma?
No one could or should even attempt to answer that question.

However, since I can't even take my own advice; I think a guy like you might be interested to look up Eckankar.


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Re: How can they report this with a straight face? [Re: warrior] #7648210
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Unfortunately there is getting to be less and less synod's that teach God's law and gospel . I compare the synod's that preach falsely to the putting a frog in cold water and slowly turning up the heat vs a pot of boiling water . ELCA has been slowly making changes for years


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