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If an atheist went to heaven #7650754
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I wonder what his/her first thoughts would be upon arrival? Would it be “Wow, was I wrong?” I know, some of you will say an atheist can’t get to heaven. But I believe anybody that lives a good life here on earth can make it to the promised land.

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I've always heard being a good person and living a good life ain't good enough. You have to be a believer, they say.

Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7650759
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You are eternally dead wrong.

I am the way, the truth, the life.

Either He was absolutely eternally correct or a madman.

I know that if one who does not know God were to see God he or she would know an indescribable fear and shame.

I know this because I was one who knew Him not and I have met my Lord and Savior.

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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: trapdog1] #7650767
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I've always heard being a good person and living a good life ain't good enough. You have to be a believer, they say.


You don't even have to live a good life. Hitler could be in 'heaven'.


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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Jerry Jr.] #7650772
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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by trapdog1
I've always heard being a good person and living a good life ain't good enough. You have to be a believer, they say.


You don't even have to live a good life. Hitler could be in 'heaven'.

He could be but not likely. "You know a tree by its fruit."- Jesus

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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by trapdog1
I've always heard being a good person and living a good life ain't good enough. You have to be a believer, they say.


You don't even have to live a good life. Hitler could be in 'heaven'.


Theoretically but highly unlikely.

However, were an Omniscient God in His infinite wisdom were to make it so just who in the hades are we to argue?


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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: warrior] #7650782
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God gives me life one day at a time and a holy spirit to help guide me through each day, so I don't spend a lot of time projecting what the after life will be like and who else is either there or not there.Pretty typical human activity for us to try and insert our egos into God's plan.

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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7650809
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One of my favorite professors Dr. John Hannah often told us in seminary that if by Grace, he makes it to heaven he's sure he'll be surprised by three things;

1. Who's there
2. Who's not there
3. That he's there

I really enjoy that from one of the world's leading historical theologians whose still teaching and preaching after 60 + years.
He graduated from DTS in 1962 I believe.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7650812
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Why not?

If God, as you opine, interceeded in every aspect of human existence to offer pure utopia would it be a life? Or would you just be a pet rat?

If you never experienced evil why would you seek God?

It's an age old question and squalling not fair like a five year old isn't the answer.


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Originally Posted by wildlifeartist1
Why did god let hittler do what he did ? and just watch
people didn't just stand by they did something about it.


They will tell you it is free will. Then they will tell you 'god has a plan for you'.


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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7650870
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We’re saved by faith with God’s grace. Works have nothing to do with it.


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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7650876
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I really believe to get to heaven it is how you treat your fellow man. If you treat them with evil like Hitler, it is doubtful you will get there. It has nothing to do if you go church or not and other things religions may tell us.

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Why does evil exist, why is there pain and suffering, If God is a good God why does he allow bad to happen?

Well, if everything worked out well with no evil, no suffering, etc. then we would be living in a heavenly state of being. Mankind was originally in that position, but we chose to extradite our selves for that heavenly state because of our rebellion.

Now back to the original question;
If an unbeliever showed up in heaven I think they would be pretty nervous and terrified. I have a friend who told me he thinks he will get to heaven because he's a relatively good guy. I reminded him: I said, "Corey, you hate getting close to a church, the couple of times you've been to church you get very uncomfortable and nervous. Now picture how you would feel in heaven. If you see God walking your direction you'll be looking for the first tree to hide behind". Corey agreed with me that heaven would probably not be an enjoyable place for him.


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Re: If an atheist went to heaven [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7650889
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
I wonder what his/her first thoughts would be upon arrival? Would it be “Wow, was I wrong?” I know, some of you will say an atheist can’t get to heaven. But I believe anybody that lives a good life here on earth can make it to the promised land.

Atheist will never see heaven. Being a good person doesn't cut it. You can't deny God while living and expect to see the promised land when dead.

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Va you nailed it The title would never happen. Where and when he will say he was wrong is on his judgement day when he will be cast into the lake of fire!

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I don't believe there's an atheist on earth, much less heaven. Atheist are just people who have no interest in allowing God in their life. It's not an intellectual hurdle, it's a sin hurdle.

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Everyone places their faith somewhere in this life.
There are no exceptions to that philosophy.

Let's not forget the definition of a god is >>>>> the ability to determine what is good and what is evil.
So if we get to decide what we think is "good" and what is not, especially as it pertains to eternal consequence, we're taking on a role we were never meant to have.
Playing god.
God is God and we humans are not, but since we're broken and think our way of walking by sight is best, questions and comments like, "good people get to go to heaven," come up often.
Define good?

When standing at the Great White Throne, the unregenerate can make their bet case to God the Son, as to how they think things shoulda been and how things should be going forward.

I always remember the God's response to Job in the Book of Job, where God has listened to Job, who never quit worshipping God throughout unthinkable calamity of wealth, family, and health (who has every reason to lament);

Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, “Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
Now gird up your loins like a man, and I will ask you, and you instruct Me!
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding." Job 38:1–4.

Blessings,
Mark

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If you could get to heaven by doing good things, then Jesus' death was for nothing. There was no reason for Jesus to die, if you could just do a bunch of good stuff to earn your way.
Also, if you could earn your way into heaven by doing good things, that would mean that God "owes" you something.

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Loose for the sake of debate How did the people get to heaven before Jesus died ? If your statement is true than what was there path?
Does the Bible teach us that we “earn “ our rewards in heaven
I think I know the answer but love to hear others interpretation

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loosegoose mentioned it, but seems like no one else has.....Jesus is the son of God and he died on the cross so that our sins may be forgiven. We must believe this in our hearts. HE is the way, the truth, and the life.


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