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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
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08/18/22 10:50 PM
08/18/22 10:50 PM
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North East Kansas
Marty
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^ Yes, if you have time/ability to do that it would work great. A filter that will make 10,000 gallons safe to drink and will fit in your pocket can also be a good item to have. They cost less than $50.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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08/18/22 10:57 PM
08/18/22 10:57 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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The big burning question here is…if power goes out. Then we are in REAL trouble. No power here=no water. We have a lake that is at record low levels 45 miles away, and a few very tiny creeks in the surrounding mountains, that is it without wells. Our wells are so deep I don’t know if installing a hand pump in one would be feasible. The well that supplies the house I currently live in is about 300’ deep, as are most wells around here.
Bison well pumps make hand pumps that work that deep but they are not cheap. https://www.bisonpumps.com/deep-well-hand-pump/If you were just concerned with enough water to drink (not feasible for watering gardens and such) they also make deep well buckets... https://www.lehmans.com/product/lehmans-own-galvanized-well-bucket/you really have to pull the pump to use those options 2 pipes , foot valve and electric to the bottom is a lot to stuff down a well casing pulling the pump on a 300' is going to be a Job and a half easier to make some electric some how and pump water into surface containers
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: Bob]
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08/19/22 12:34 AM
08/19/22 12:34 AM
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Southern Virginia, 50 yr old
VaBeagler
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People who “prep” usually aren’t prepared for anything truly drastic. I feel confident enough in my ability to grow food and kill food that I don’t feel the need to save up 12 months worth of groceries. I’ve got a months worth or so of food at any given time, plenty to get started. I do need to start bulking up my seed collection though, and buy some ammo for protection. .22lr is enough for just about any thieves. I’m accurate enough to take headshots with my .22 rifle out 100+yards.
The big burning question here is…if power goes out. Then we are in REAL trouble. No power here=no water. We have a lake that is at record low levels 45 miles away, and a few very tiny creeks in the surrounding mountains, that is it without wells. Our wells are so deep I don’t know if installing a hand pump in one would be feasible. The well that supplies the house I currently live in is about 300’ deep, as are most wells around here. Hit and miss motors. I have 17 john deere horse and a half hit and miss motors. Run 24 hours on a quart and a half of gasoline.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
#7653041
08/19/22 05:30 AM
08/19/22 05:30 AM
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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you really have to pull the pump to use those options 2 pipes , foot valve and electric to the bottom is a lot to stuff down a well casing pulling the pump on a 300' is going to be a Job and a half easier to make some electric some how and pump water into surface containers I don't know a lot about them, but I do know the Bison pumps are advertised as being made to work alongside the electric pump without having to pull it.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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08/19/22 09:24 AM
08/19/22 09:24 AM
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Green County Wisconsin
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I don't know a lot about them, but I do know the Bison pumps are advertised as being made to work alongside the electric pump without having to pull it.
I went and looked at the Bison I was only familiar with more traditional hand pump designs they do have a much more trim design that is intended to go down along side a traditional pump the issue is they appear to max out at 150' if he needs 300 he is only getting half way there with that option it also appears the bison pump is mostly intended to be a backup pump and many people never install them just keep them on hand from what they say on their web site.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
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08/19/22 09:38 AM
08/19/22 09:38 AM
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WI>>>MN >>>WI
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I gave up on the full scale prepping concept.
When you think about just how bad it could be...nothing including your stores would be safe.
I am thinking the best supply line is to "acquire" from the enemy.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: T-Rex]
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08/19/22 09:43 AM
08/19/22 09:43 AM
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Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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I gave up on the full scale prepping concept.
When you think about just how bad it could be...nothing including your stores would be safe.
I am thinking the best supply line is to "acquire" from the enemy. full scale no 30 days of decently comfortable living while people go insane fighting in the isles at the store if things aren't better in 30 days well having years worth is probably not that worth it but a few weeks is a nice little insurance policy and if it is what you already eat then it really doesn't cost very much extra we know the next snow storm and power outage is coming happens every couple years we know the next supply line break is coming shipping is stretched thin by preparing for the 48, 72 , week maybe 2 week stuff you can sit back and relax rather than join the insanity
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America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
#7653285
08/19/22 12:08 PM
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Tennessee
Scuba1
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For most folks it is not having a water source that is the big problem. They can keep all the food at hand that they want. Its useless without having water. The water usually gets inaccessible when the power goes out. If thing get bad, you are going to have a lot of city folks in search of drinkable water long before they run out of mars bars. Quite a few folks in the southern states are going to have a hard time if the AC goes out with the power or the heating if it happens in the winter in a southern state ... as we have all seen in Texas. It would be an interesting time for sure. Having lived at anchor ..... about as off grid as it gets for a decade, and the location that I have picked here, I am not to worried. But a lot of folks would have a pretty hard time of it for sure.
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
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08/19/22 01:05 PM
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The Hill Country of Texas
Leftlane
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I get a kick out of the TV shows, but I suspect any prepared person or family would never consider having cameras around their homestead. If you advertise and flaunt things you could easily attract the wrong kind of visitor.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Prepping
[Re: 160user]
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08/19/22 01:10 PM
08/19/22 01:10 PM
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If you haven't "prepped" already then it is too late. "When the disaster is upon us,,the time to prepare has past".
Last edited by upstateNY; 08/19/22 01:15 PM.
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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
#7653509
08/19/22 06:35 PM
08/19/22 06:35 PM
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S/W Mich.
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To me the hardest part of being a successful survivalist.
Is hiding the fact you are a successful survivor.
If it last long enough, you are a desirable target.
Just my thinking.
"Some Domestication Required "
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Re: Prepping
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
#7653513
08/19/22 06:39 PM
08/19/22 06:39 PM
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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I don't know a lot about them, but I do know the Bison pumps are advertised as being made to work alongside the electric pump without having to pull it.
I went and looked at the Bison I was only familiar with more traditional hand pump designs they do have a much more trim design that is intended to go down along side a traditional pump the issue is they appear to max out at 150' if he needs 300 he is only getting half way there with that option it also appears the bison pump is mostly intended to be a backup pump and many people never install them just keep them on hand from what they say on their web site. They go to 300 feet. Their website isn't the clearest on it but they do. 300 feet to the surface of the water is their limit. I looked into them a bit when we lived in IL and had a deep water well. Here's one place where they state that. http://www.bisonpumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DW-Inline-Hand-Pump.pdf
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: Prepping
[Re: KeithC]
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08/19/22 06:41 PM
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OH
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The most valuable resource will be people willing to fight together to protect what they have and can produce.
If you imperviously walled off my farm from people, we could live here until we died of natural causes. Since that's not possible we will have to rely on fighters willing to kill.
Keith That speaks volumes Keith. What absolute weird times we live in that this would be forefront conversation.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Prepping
[Re: patrapperbuster]
#7653524
08/19/22 07:01 PM
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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Defending it would be the hard part. Definitely not really possible with 1 or 2 people. 6-8? Maybe for awhile until hordes from major cities start showing up.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: Prepping
[Re: Sharon]
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08/19/22 07:16 PM
08/19/22 07:16 PM
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Tennessee
Scuba1
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These thoughts bring to my mind the movie Water World....a Costner production.
Michael , you may find that one interesting, as the whole thing is played out on the ocean. Ohh I have a couple of DVD's or three with that one on them. The marina folks called my setup waterworld and it sort of stuck with us
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: Prepping
[Re: Sharon]
#7653538
08/19/22 07:33 PM
08/19/22 07:33 PM
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Southern Illinois
Foxpaw
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These thoughts bring to my mind the movie Water World....a Costner production.
Michael , you may find that one interesting, as the whole thing is played out on the ocean. I have Water World and also have all the seasons of the Walking Dead. A while ago when Keith was talking about his farm reminded me of when they all settled on Herschel the veterinarians farm, which was great until they got over ran. Medicine needs is another necessary thing.
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