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Sad Day for the USA #7658665
08/26/22 02:05 PM
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Folks,

I made a comment about this in the other thread, but I just want to say that everybody regardless if you like the guy or dislike him should be ashamed at what has transpired. I don't know what the rest of the affidavit says, but I can pretty much guess. This is disgraceful to our nation, disgraceful to the FBI, and most importantly disgraceful to a former POTUS to have this happen over records. POTUS with the except of just a few things, has ultimate classification authority, which means a verbal order triggers the declassification automatically. There is nothing here that has been presented that would remotely begin to warrant this to have ever of happened in the manner that it did. For the FBI to say that there is likely evidence of obstruction is once again so disgraceful and shameful, even if he was being stubborn about returning the records. I know most people here likely read the rules and regulations as black and white, but I am being very honest when I say this is like your house getting raided for not returning a library book.

Again, don't buy into the fact that a CI guy is investigating it that's who WOULD be investigating it. Certain people within certain places are the only ones who have authorities under different sections of federal law to handle stuff like this. The only thing that would have made me feel different is if there was some reference to foreign collaboration, or sharing these documents with a foreign adversary, but there wasn't and there wont be either.

Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658673
08/26/22 02:28 PM
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Just read what was released. I'm speechless not knowing just how to describe a whole bunch of NOTHING.

How any reasonably logical legal mind can sign off on a search for clearly personal and work related documents generated for and by the target who clearly has the supreme authority in their past and current classification on the premise that the same target somehow mismanaged his own documents defies all reason.

The end result is nothing more or less than no elected official ever has or enjoys the autonomy of his or her elected office but in fact become the sole property and control of the unelected bureaucratic state.


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658676
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I'm thinking that the were hoping the affidavit wasn't going to be released until after the election so they could beat the GOP with it. They now look stupid and petty.

Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658677
08/26/22 02:32 PM
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Where's the insurrection now?


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658680
08/26/22 02:38 PM
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sadder day 1/20/21.


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658682
08/26/22 02:39 PM
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Why aren't conservatives crying lock him up??? Maybe Pence should start campaigning for 2024 now make that his thing.
Lockem Up!


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658695
08/26/22 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tofan
Folks,

I made a comment about this in the other thread, but I just want to say that everybody regardless if you like the guy or dislike him should be ashamed at what has transpired. I don't know what the rest of the affidavit says, but I can pretty much guess. This is disgraceful to our nation, disgraceful to the FBI, and most importantly disgraceful to a former POTUS to have this happen over records. POTUS with the except of just a few things, has ultimate classification authority, which means a verbal order triggers the declassification automatically. There is nothing here that has been presented that would remotely begin to warrant this to have ever of happened in the manner that it did. For the FBI to say that there is likely evidence of obstruction is once again so disgraceful and shameful, even if he was being stubborn about returning the records. I know most people here likely read the rules and regulations as black and white, but I am being very honest when I say this is like your house getting raided for not returning a library book.

Again, don't buy into the fact that a CI guy is investigating it that's who WOULD be investigating it. Certain people within certain places are the only ones who have authorities under different sections of federal law to handle stuff like this. The only thing that would have made me feel different is if there was some reference to foreign collaboration, or sharing these documents with a foreign adversary, but there wasn't and there wont be either.

Exactly right^^^^


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: dakidsmn] #7658696
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Originally Posted by dakidsmn
I'm thinking that the were hoping the affidavit wasn't going to be released until after the election so they could beat the GOP with it. They now look stupid and petty.

Exactly right also^^^


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: Macthediver] #7658699
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Originally Posted by Macthediver
Why aren't conservatives crying lock him up??? Maybe Pence should start campaigning for 2024 now make that his thing.
Lockem Up!


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Can you clarify . Sorry but I'm not smart enough to understand your meaning.

Last edited by Providence Farm; 08/26/22 03:13 PM.
Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658703
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It was, at is has always been, a nine hour fishing expedition.

Most important question, who ok'd this course of action. Not talking about the DOJ, but who really gave the ok for this gestapo raid.

Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: wr otis] #7658716
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Originally Posted by wr otis
It was, at is has always been, a nine hour fishing expedition.

Most important question, who ok'd this course of action. Not talking about the DOJ, but who really gave the ok for this gestapo raid.


Seeing as it's a political question, who's the top politician?

But seeing as how the deep state has the apparently unrestrained power to prosecute former presidents one wonders how the current president might answer that question.

The Dims have created their own cage.


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658724
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Biden claims to not have been involved or notified, assuming that statement is true then who did give the go ahead.

It's like the mafia, you gotta have a sit down on a move like this one.

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Originally Posted by wr otis
Biden claims to not have been involved or notified, assuming that statement is true then who did give the go ahead.

It's like the mafia, you gotta have a sit down on a move like this one.

Joe Biden is a liar.

Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658728
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The FBI SHOULD BE SCRAPED WE DONT NEED THEM.

Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658750
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Since our founders were classicists who knew and understood history and looked to it when crafting our republic i wonder if they could've foreseen these recent events?

https://www.historyextra.com/period/roman/the-emperors-fatal-servants/

The Praetorian Guard: the emperors’ fatal servants

The Praetorian Guard began life as Augustus's bodyguard but evolved into a power-hungry monster responsible for the rise and bloody fall of numerous emperors.


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658751
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If we get a Convention of States we seriously need to considered an amendment prohibiting or severely restricting all forms of federal law enforcement for the very same reason our founders feared a standing army.


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: Guss] #7658781
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Originally Posted by Guss
The FBI SHOULD BE SCRAPED WE DONT NEED THEM.

Amen


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658800
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The real sad day was when Biden stole thhe election and became the illegemint president!.

Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: wr otis] #7658828
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Biden claims to not have been involved or notified, assuming that statement is true then who did give the go ahead.

It's like the mafia, you gotta have a sit down on a move like this one.

I would guess Susan Rice....


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Re: Sad Day for the USA [Re: MattLA] #7658835
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Garland doesn't look like the kind of guy who would be capable of making this move on his own.

Biden i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know in advance.

But somebody is making high level decisions.

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