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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660133
08/28/22 05:28 PM
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I suspect that the sound of a hotshot grounding out a charge on metal would pop them back up on their feed fast.
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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660134
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Only one way to be sure LOL


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660155
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If you pour a cup of water in their nostril, a horse, donkey or mule will get up very fast. They can lay there and drown or get up. Which do you think they will choose?


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660168
08/28/22 06:24 PM
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Makes sense to me, thanks Mark.


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660179
08/28/22 06:33 PM
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Makes perfect logic, MJM. I like the influence of the hotshot grounding too, Hoss cool

Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660186
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If your corrections aren't working, your not correcting hard enough, remember, make it memorable!

One thing I've seen with problem horses, if you watch them carefully they'll usually give you a sign of what they're about to do, correct them the instant the evil thought comes into their head....

I once had a boarders horse come in that was a kicker, of course no one would admit it, He almost got me the first time, the second time he tried it I had an empty feed bucket in my hand and the instant he cocked his leg I slammed him with the bucket. He noticed that....never attempted to kick again, in fact he became my buddy, lol

Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660214
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If wanted to lay down I would first try a squirt gun into his ear. For charging Grab an ear and take it to the ground and sit on it's head until it quit trying to get up. Time to get aggressive and the window is getting smaller daily. You need to get your dominance embedded in his brain so he don't forget.


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660262
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Originally Posted by cathryn
On a side note? Should i worm him? And if so with what?



A 12 ga should work fine...

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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660369
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You need to make it understand that you're the leader and the boss however you do that.
Herd animals aren't motivated to be your friend. Pack animals are motivated by that. Lots of people treat horses like dogs, they aren't.
Establish dominance or it will get worse.

Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660371
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4 pages and no one said , Pull his teeth?

Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660379
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electricity applied while the animal is in the act or thinking about the act(if your instinct is good enough to gauge that)......the behavior you do not want should become unpleasant for the animal..it will be in the animals best interest to avoid the unwanted behavior.


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660396
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Electricity applied in proper doses has cured many unacceptable behaviors.
Texas cured many criminals of their evil ways in “Old Sparky” at the Huntsville prison.

My cousins showed Charolais cattle and the hottest shock stick would not tame their evil ways. A butcher did though.

Used in a much friendlier manner, an E collar has helped dogs lose unwanted behaviors. It can be used at the precise moment. The “correction” is not associated with the trainer. The dog miraculously cures himself!

Are E collars made for or used in the Equine world?


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660442
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Originally Posted by cathryn
Ok. Ill.let the little.(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) go in circles till he wears out..then ill encourage him to go in circles some more.

The sound i make that works for the dogs is ..kinda like.."aaaaaaaaa" loud and short. It stops them in Their tracks. I gotta get him under control cause Jerry said hed be a pain and i said..id take care of it till he wont be..and i cant prove Jerry right.lol

It took a nip at him..ONCE.

It was also biting the wire.

Its just hard to believe something so dern cute can be so ornery.

You should meet my wife.


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: Broomchaser] #7660490
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Originally Posted by Broomchaser
Originally Posted by cathryn
Ok. Ill.let the little.(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) go in circles till he wears out..then ill encourage him to go in circles some more.

The sound i make that works for the dogs is ..kinda like.."aaaaaaaaa" loud and short. It stops them in Their tracks. I gotta get him under control cause Jerry said hed be a pain and i said..id take care of it till he wont be..and i cant prove Jerry right.lol

It took a nip at him..ONCE.

It was also biting the wire.

Its just hard to believe something so dern cute can be so ornery.

You should meet my wife.

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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660551
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Grab a mule or a donkey by the ear and try to put it on the ground and sit on its head will get you kicked in the ear ! This is not a dog we are talking about, they have amazing agility and are twice as smart as a horse. When you get a good mule it likely had a good trainer. My dad broke colts for a living , trained most of them after they were broke to be great roping horses. He did this for the most part in the same manner with each horse as they are a lot alike. ( mostly ) When I started riding mules he did not like nor get along with any of them , they are not a horse !

Cathryn don’t try to grab him by the ear and take him to the ground, you will only end up getting hurt. You may not be big enough and strong enough to bust him in the nose and stop the biting, but if you have access to a good shocking collar put it around his muzzle and stand back. When he tries biting the fence give him a stout jolt, not a level 4 or 5 but HAND OF GOD level. You don’t want to do this when your in the pen as he may do a back flip the first time . Don’t give him any vocal commands when you do this , in fact you don’t want him to know you had anything to do with it. Remember they are smart, if you can catch him in the act of biting “anything “ he will soon get the idea that biting has consequences. He may quit never knowing that you had anything to do with it, this way he won’t just stop when you are watch, they are smart.

P.S. they are a lot like little kids at this stage, you don’t want them to rule the roost because they will if you let them .

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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660619
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Ya'll will think this crazy, but it has worked for me with every horse I have dealt with.

When it tries to bite ya, punch it as hard as ya can right in it's shoulder or as near the shoulder as ya can. HARD, as HARD as ya can.

I was taught that by an old timer who was very well known for training horses and mules.

Why does it work? Because a horse or mule never forgets anything. When they were being fed by momma and bit her teet, she would sling her head around and knock the fire out of them. Most often hitting them in the shoulder or there abouts.

I have never messed with a donkey, but I believe they are close enough for it to work.

Also, if it is old enough to ween, ween it. No use babying it any longer than necessary.

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It hasn't been mentioned but maybe a neutering would help....in any event it can't hurt,,,you, lol

and I wouldn't start a wrestling match either, I recently had to deal with a new fawn that got hit by a car, I thought it was dead so grabbed a leg to drag off the road. I can't believe how strong those little guys are as he wasn't COMPLETELY dead, had to subdue it to get it off the road. I imagine a young donkey is way worse....

Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: gcs] #7660678
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Originally Posted by gcs
It hasn't been mentioned but maybe a neutering would help....in any event it can't hurt,,,you, lol

and I wouldn't start a wrestling match either, I recently had to deal with a new fawn that got hit by a car, I thought it was dead so grabbed a leg to drag off the road. I can't believe how strong those little guys are as he wasn't COMPLETELY dead, had to subdue it to get it off the road. I imagine a young donkey is way worse....



The term you want is gelded.

Same as neuter grin

And yes they are very strong, and fast.

I don't mess with spoiled chilluns unless I have the tools easily available to use in persuasion.

Cathryn, I almost forgot a very good tool-called a dressage whip. It is a four/five foot long fairly stiff thin whip that is used by riders to tap legs, rear, or shoulders on a dressage horse as they are in the saddle. To cue them in training. I love them.

When leading , walking beside them, you can hold it by the handle with the end facing backwards, to tap them on the side , to get them to move over , or use it to tap their front chest as you walk, to signal halt. Or from stand still, to tap on the neck base to back.

Arabian show horses have that used to stand at attention in the show ring.

You can use them for a lot of things, and the length allows you to keep distance. That too would be good to use out in open pasture to make him respect you .

Cant believe I almost forgot that .

I used one on a horse who tried to get in the habit of pulling back every time he was tied to something. I got behind him, off to the side and wailed on him with that whip as soon as he began to haul back. Right on his butt. He leaped forward , his expression was priceless. he never pulled again. I left streaks in welts from one side of his rear to the other, but he wasn't injured any more than if someone kicked the snot out of him in the pasture.

Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660683
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Sounds like Miss Sharon needs to make a trip to WV>


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Re: How do you break a donkey from biting? [Re: cathryn] #7660686
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grin Well, on one hand, Sir Ken, it is waaaay too hot over there for me, on the other hand smile ...I would surely gain a small furry enemy after I'm done . Maybe that would be a good thing, then he would appreciate Cathryn a lot more !

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