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monarch butterflies #7662276
08/31/22 08:02 PM
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I went for a atv ride , back along my fenceline. There were hundreds of Monarchs , hanging in the trees and in the goldenrod. Quite a sight. They were staying on the downwind side, out of the wind, They are staging for their long migration, to Mexico, I think. Long way from Ontario. old243

Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662294
08/31/22 08:34 PM
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That's cool! Heard they got put on the endangered species list this year.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662306
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Good to hear. They have gotten scarce around here. I've only seen two all summer and that was ca couple of weeks ago.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662309
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That was a great sight to see, I’m sure. We have a lot of milk weed in my area. I use to see a bunch of monarchs hitting the milk weed on our property but rarely see them anymore. We have a lot of the similar sized yellow and black butterflies, not sure of their proper name.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662315
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It would be neat to see the migrating monarchs.

The endangered status of monarchs is based on uneducated public opinion and very bad science. The number of monarchs varies greatly from year to year. Studies estimate there is 80% less to 25% less monarchs than there was 80 years ago. One good year could easily set a new record for the number of monarchs. Their population numbers always wildly fluctuate like other insects do..

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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: ChadC] #7662316
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Originally Posted by ChadC
That was a great sight to see, I’m sure. We have a lot of milk weed in my area. I use to see a bunch of monarchs hitting the milk weed on our property but rarely see them anymore. We have a lot of the similar sized yellow and black butterflies, not sure of their proper name.


I'm seeing the same, the yellow and black swallowtails is what I'm seeing here. They've been on my wife's mint tea patch that she let flower and go to seed for weeks now.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662322
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All we got are those huge grasshoppers, lol. I’d really like to see migrating butterflies other than the little yellow ones that hang around the wet spots.

Re: monarch butterflies [Re: ChadC] #7662326
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Originally Posted by ChadC
That was a great sight to see, I’m sure. We have a lot of milk weed in my area. I use to see a bunch of monarchs hitting the milk weed on our property but rarely see them anymore. We have a lot of the similar sized yellow and black butterflies, not sure of their proper name.


Sounds like tiger swallowtail but hard to say without pics.

I’ve seen just a few monarchs this year. Tons of milkweed around but very few monarchs. I hope they make a comeback


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662345
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I saw a monarch at work the other day. First one I've seen this year.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662351
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You sure they weren't the other model? Isn't there a secondary species that mimics Monarchs, to curtail birds from on eating them? Can't think of their name at the moment.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662352
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The problem is not the ones that reproduce here in the US. The Problem is the number of ones who are able to survive the massive amounts of pesticides Mexico allows to be used. That is what is killing them off.

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When I was a kid, 60 some years ago, I saw migratory flight of 100's of thousands Monarch's. I'll never forget it, blocked out the Sun!


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: BigBob] #7662358
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Originally Posted by BigBob
When I was a kid, 60 some years ago, I saw migratory flight of 100's of thousands Monarch's. I'll never forget it, blocked out the Sun!


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: Yukon John] #7662360
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That one is called a Viceroy Butterfly.
Originally Posted by Yukon John
You sure they weren't the other model? Isn't there a secondary species that mimics Monarchs, to curtail birds from on eating them? Can't think of their name at the moment.


That one is called a Viceroy Butterfly.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: Mac McAtee] #7662361
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Originally Posted by ][/quote

Thanks was just wondering if the b fly was misidentified.
Originally Posted by Mac McAtee
That one is called a Viceroy Butterfly.[quote=Yukon John]You sure they weren't the other model? Isn't there a secondary species that mimics Monarchs, to curtail birds from on eating them? Can't think of their name at the moment.


That one is called a Viceroy Butterfly.

Thanks, was just wondering if the b fly was misidentified.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662363
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a couple of years ago the wife and I were sitting out on the driveway when we spotted a monarch come cruising by about 30 ft high, going south.
About a minute or two later another, then after awhile another.
This went on till we decided to call it a night and go inside.
We counted over a hundred of them one by one all heading south.

We have seen quite a few monarchs this summer around our yard.
Of course our yard is all prairie plants, grasses and wildflowers.
If you own an acre or two of land and you mow it for yard your taking potential butterfly habitat for what? Just to have to mow and worse yet if your fertilizing and herbiciding it what other damage are you doing?

Monarchs have several generations per summer, not only is Mexico a problem but the US is a problem too.
Mowing ditches, clearing fence lines, mowing land that could just as well be left wild not to mention pesticide usage in Ag all hurt.

Re: monarch butterflies [Re: Mark K] #7662368
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Originally Posted by Mark K
The problem is not the ones that reproduce here in the US. The Problem is the number of ones who are able to survive the massive amounts of pesticides Mexico allows to be used. That is what is killing them off.

The quarter across the road from me was sprayed three times for grass hoppers this year according to one of his hired men. The guy farming it farms 13,000 acres, so there is plenty of spray in the US too. He also sprays weeds and fungus. It is common to see him spray a field 6-8 times a year.


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Re: monarch butterflies [Re: old243] #7662384
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Saw a group flying south today did not find a single caterpillar this summer

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Was mowing a small clover strip on my hilltop about a month ago. It drops off into a very steep weedy hillside and across a big open valley. There were a number of butterflies flying around as I mowed. One was a Monarch. If you've ever seen barn swallows when you mow a field.........they'll follow you and dive bomb all around grabbing the bugs the mower chases up. Sometimes they'll darn near hit you. Anyhoo.......... As I'm mowing, I see this Monarch out in front of the tractor 15-20 yards or so. As I'm watching it, a barn swallow took a hot pass RIGHT at it. As quick as the swallow veered off and a way, The Monarch took after it........matching it turn for turn for probably a 50 yard chase. I have never, EVER seen anything like it !!! But it was no coincidence. That butterfly was apparently NOT happy.


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I am a "caretaker" of sorts of 3500 acres of a Hunting club that is 1/5 old coal stripping. There is maybe 15 acres of milk weed and VERY few monarchs this year. A lot last year......jk


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