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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: 080808] #7662898
09/01/22 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 080808
State Department of Conservation encourage more hunters
Hunters encourage more hunters.
Eventually to hunt there will be four options. Hunt government land. Belong to a club. Own land. Quit hunting.

Pretty much already is! I hunt in the Ozarks, in the middle of Millions of acres of National Forest land, and I keep getting squeezed out by LARGE gangs of hunters from the bigger city's. They will move in 25-50 strong, with their campers/mobile homes and tents, cutting roads into the forest, (illegal) driving the rigs into the spot, (illegal), and they don't care who they screw over. All that land and they STILL trespass private ground. They will drive their ATV's all over the woods, (illegal) and park the stinking thing right near a guy covered in orange, wave at you, and go off to the spot they picked. But, it's public ground and you can't say anything.


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662904
09/01/22 06:26 PM
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I have a place that I lease and its a good one for turkey which I dont hunt and [ots of deer that I do hunt 150 ac. about 140 huntable with wood lot of 25 ac. Its afight with neighbors every year and they dont win but interfere whenever they can . Trespass is rampant .


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Wanna Be] #7662914
09/01/22 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So who y’all mad at? Hunters for offering money? Or landowner for taking it?


Not even mad a hint. I just thought it was disrespectful for someone to offer money when someone else has permission. I'm glad my friend is making a few bucks, I told him to do it, he initially told them no and I said to call them back and take it because I know things are tight.

I guess if I wanted to lease something and someone else was hunting it ide ask about leasing it next year or something.

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662921
09/01/22 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So who y’all mad at? Hunters for offering money? Or landowner for taking it?


Not even mad a hint. I just thought it was disrespectful for someone to offer money when someone else has permission. I'm glad my friend is making a few bucks, I told him to do it, he initially told them no and I said to call them back and take it because I know things are tight.

I guess if I wanted to lease something and someone else was hunting it ide ask about leasing it next year or something.

He should have told them to up the price that way if they pay they have to pay alot. I try and make sure if I know someone is going to lease land that I talk the land owner in to charging them all they can especially if they are not from here. That way I feel a little better about city folk coming out here.

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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Matt28] #7662926
09/01/22 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt28

He should have told them to up the price that way if they pay they have to pay alot. I try and make sure if I know someone is going to lease land that I talk the land owner in to charging them all they can especially if they are not from here. That way I feel a little better about city folk coming out here.



That's exactly what I told him to do. We will also have 20 dozen decoys across the street in another field, they won't have the day they are expecting...

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662932
09/01/22 07:06 PM
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It's rude of them if they knew you already had permission

You have a few options

1. you could have offered to lease your buddies property and secured it for yrs

2. Lease the property next door and bring all the deer with you

3. Hunt it anyway

4. Don't hunt ever again

5. Find some public land or some free private land


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662933
09/01/22 07:07 PM
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The ones really getting shafted in all this are the kids.

Where I grew up the largest landowner in the county was, and still is, US Steel. They allowed free access to almost all of it only posting the areas of active use. All they asked was to come down to the office and sign a register to get a free permit.

That meant as a youngun I and all the younguns in the community had free access to thousands of acres. We played in the creeks all summer and hunted all winter.

That has long since changed after a few idiots did stupid stuff and tried suing the property owner for their own stupidity.

Now it is all posted and leased with the requirement that the lease holder prosecute trespass, even kids.

And we wonder why kids never leave the house or xbox?


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662935
09/01/22 07:09 PM
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Wait, so this is just for waterfowl? A one time deal or they lease it for the year? Locals or out of town folks? Apparently if they offered money and it’s for waterfowl then they’ve been watching it. Ain’t no way I’m offering money for a field unless I KNOW there’s birds there.

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662942
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Did the person know YOU had permission? Or just someone else . The fact the owner called you to see if it bothered you take that as a win ! No different than letting someone have your hay to keep the field clean but then some one offers to pay you to cut it ? They be crazy not to take the money...

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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: jbyrd63] #7662980
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Did the person know YOU had permission? Or just someone else . The fact the owner called you to see if it bothered you take that as a win ! No different than letting someone have your hay to keep the field clean but then some one offers to pay you to cut it ? They be crazy not to take the money...

I agree with the jbyrd on this.....


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7662985
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Somebody is willing to pay to hunt birds ? .....now that's crazy !


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: AntiGov] #7663027
09/01/22 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Somebody is willing to pay to hunt birds ? .....now that's crazy !

Folks lease prepared dove fields here. And pay per gun to shoot doves. Also, have many here that pay for turkey hunting privileges.

Quail hunting is big $$$ too.


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663114
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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663134
09/02/22 01:40 AM
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All rhis over doves?

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663150
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State does a pretty good job of managing dove fields on public hunting here. I've had some good hunting in Iowa and Missouri on public hunting fields.

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663155
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the reason pay to hunt is a reality is because all you people who make excuses and pay the fees while complaining about it, keep right on paying. quit killing deer for three years and there will be a bounty on them. when you kill deer its the LANDOWNER getting a favor


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: danny clifton] #7663246
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
the reason pay to hunt is a reality is because all you people who make excuses and pay the fees while complaining about it, keep right on paying. quit killing deer for three years and there will be a bounty on them. when you kill deer its the LANDOWNER getting a favor



Dnr here would just pay them for the crop damage and let them spotlight and shoot them and let them lay

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663265
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Folks willing to pay money to hunt private land and private land owners turning away folks because they aren't willing to pay will be the demise of my hunting passion. It's all about greed. It's tough enough to get on private land as it is!


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Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663270
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Compare school and property taxes 20 years ago versus now. End of story.

Re: Disrespectful? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7663287
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I pay for fishing access. I have no problem with it and truth be told I think the fishing is a better experience because of it.
Don't catch any more fish in either place.

I have fished the public areas too, the only difference is the public areas have more slobs, people who leave trash all over.
And generally you'll have people that behave better on the pay for access areas.

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