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Baught a piece #7667564
09/08/22 09:13 PM
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Of dirt with a house on it around 8 years ago. I did not have a survey done when I bought it, but got title insurance on the place. My neighbor just this year didnít approve of where our boundaries meet and had a survey done. The results of his survey are interesting to say the least. His abstract deed that he has, along with his survey shows his line coming 78 feet past the existing fence which puts half the house on his said ground. My title insured deed, according to his survey, shows my ground going 180 feet past existing fence the opposite direction. So now we have a boundary dispute. I checked at the countyís courthouse and find out that I have been paying taxes for 8 years now on the 180 feet past the fence. We had a meeting at title company to try and rectify the dispute, to no avail. That meeting took place 2-3 months ago. Just yesterday my neighbor brings a track hoe in onto the disputed ground and startís ripping trees and brush out and digging ditches. Going to see a lawyer tomorrow about the situation. I didnít think you could do something like that on ground that is in dispute. Of course I didnít think I had a problem since I had title insurance on said ground and have been paying taxes on it. My neighbor is getting on my last nerve.
What say you arm chair lawyers?

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667574
09/08/22 09:21 PM
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A friend of mine had a similar situation. The Title Company refused to pay or rectify the situation because he did not have the property surveyed when he bought. Their attitude was they insured what he bought and it was not their fault that what he bought was not what he thought he bought. He lost about half of the property's value. I wish you luck but have no advice.

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667576
09/08/22 09:22 PM
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Wow, that's screwed up!!

If the county people have been taking taxes from you on the wrong ground, then they either reimburse you or pay for legal arbitration to settle the dispute.But I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. I'd say the local courts need to do an immediate injunction to stop the neighbor's digging until things are resolved. Somebody used faulty lines sometime in the past and now you're the one getting screwed, unless your neighbor's survey crew is incorrect.


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Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667579
09/08/22 09:27 PM
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Gotta stop the digging NOW! You need a lawyer NOW! I think you have a rights of possession going, and he's trying to negate that.


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Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667581
09/08/22 09:32 PM
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trees and brush will have a replacement value of hundreds of thousands, if it turns out to be his he's going to take it out anyways, if it's yours you will own his house in short order.

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667583
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According to a quick Google search Missouri adverse possession takes a minimum of 10 years of continuous habitation by an individual

Re: Baught a piece [Re: NonPCfed] #7667595
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I kind of like his survey. The abstract deed he has on his place have not been used a very long time because they are open to interpretation by whoever looks at it. My deed does not include the famous words describing a particular point ( MORE OR LESS). It names the line in dispute and my starting point for the deed as THE QUARTER SECTION LINE. This is the starting and ending point in my deed. Do not know what his abstract says for measuring points, but have been told some abstract deedís name a certain rock or tree to pull a line off of, that might be long gone. As far as not getting a survey done when I baught the place, I baught a house and 12 acres as represented to me by a realistate company. So to me that says I have been defrauded if his abstract deed and survey says he now owns half my house. I would have thought the title insurance company would have looked at every surrounding deed or abstract before issuing me title insurance.

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667600
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I do have an appointment at 11:00 tomorrow with an attorney that specializes in land disputes. Something tells me somebody or some companies are about to get sued, and I donít think itís gonna be me. Heck fire, what a man wonít do for a little entertainment. whistle

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667603
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get em...



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Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667609
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Go get them. Good people should not have to deal this

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667612
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From what I have seen, the only thing a title insurance company looks at is your payment. I bought a house with a lean on it, some how the title insurance company didn't know about it, and I had to pay it. The title insurance company said they did not check for leans. When I ask what they did check they did not answer.


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Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667613
09/08/22 10:23 PM
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Sounds like a dandy neighbor.
He needs a knot on his head that a calf could suck.

Is he ripping out pecan trees?

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667617
09/08/22 10:31 PM
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Bottom line: Title Insurance is to ensure that you are buying something and have good title to it. It does not tell you where the real estate is located. A surveyor is needed to tell you where the property lines are. You need to hire a surveyor.

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667618
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Have it surveyed again Let it hit where it hits Sounds like you gain ground . It you have the house deed move it inside your boundaries!

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667636
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Title insurance only ptotects you from other people having leans on it. Whoever hires the surveyor is going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Good luck.

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667677
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in Michigan a fence line that's been there for years is the line, my dad had the same thing happen when i was a teenager took about 10 to straighten out

Re: Baught a piece [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7667741
09/09/22 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
in Michigan a fence line that's been there for years is the line, my dad had the same thing happen when i was a teenager took about 10 to straighten out

Same with my fathers property. Surveyer went with the old fence and tree lines that had been there for many years.

Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667747
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Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
Just yesterday my neighbor brings a track hoe in onto the disputed ground and startís ripping trees and brush out and digging ditches.
What say you arm chair lawyers?


First chore for that digger was likely to destroy any and all remnants of any fence or other markers that might be included in any of the metes and bounds descriptions.
Was a surveyor (helper) for years, seen that pony show several times. Really muddies the waters.


Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667750
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OnX Hunt will show you property boundaries. See if it matches. I know it's not legal but it does go on county records.


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Re: Baught a piece [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #7667752
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Your neighbor sounds like a real jerk


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