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can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo #7672742
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The price of the the reloading components has gone up. So, can you still save money reloading the 30-30 leverevolution ammo ? Once you buy the bullets, powder, brass, primers AND the reloading equipment, How long does it take to break even on what you spent ?

Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672746
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I use 35 grains of H335 and 150 grain hornady round nose. No clue what equipment and powder etc costs now. But cheap 30-30 ammo is a buck fifty a round. I spend less than that


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672748
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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672755
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I don't look at it as a money thing. When I want ammo, I want it now! If I can load it, i do. More of an availability thing with me.


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672759
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Originally Posted by Canvasback2
The price of the the reloading components has gone up. So, can you still save money reloading the 30-30 leverevolution ammo ? Once you buy the bullets, powder, brass, primers AND the reloading equipment, How long does it take to break even on what you spent ?



I wouldn't think you would shoot enough 30-30 to cover the cost of supplies AND the cost of equipment....unless it was one of the old Lee handloaders


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Yukon John] #7672785
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
I don't look at it as a money thing. When I want ammo, I want it now! If I can load it, i do. More of an availability thing with me.

Same here Yukon John. Plus the added accuracy from handloads (typically). That, or I just usually have terrible luck getting factory ammo to shoot well.

I've only had ONE rifle that ever shot factory ammo well, and it was a cheap T/C Compass. That rifle has no business being priced so low, compared to how well it shoots!


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672788
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Questions
How much do you shoot
Do you want something special
What kinda accuracy do you need
You trying to prep ?
Single mutipe rifles ?
All of this is gonna factor in if you only shoot 20-40 rd a year....no real point
You wanting to load anything special? Reduced loads ,heavy cast , certain bullets ? If so then yeah could be good
You want sub MOA accuracy or is good nuff ....good nuff ? If so we have some options either way
You a prepper they to stock pile ?
You shooting these in a single rifle or multiple?

I save money reloading just due to the face by the time I found ammo that does what I want in my rifle I've probably gotten $200 in 29rd boxes just testing.

Last edited by Wolfdog91; 09/16/22 03:41 PM.
Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672790
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Also is there a range near you ? If so you can save a TON of money picking up once fired brass all the way to "mining " the berms for lead to melt down and cast your own bullets . Also YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY NEW !!! go in some here like accurate shooter and you can get someone old lee set up for 1/4 of the price as new and it will still load good ammo if you do your part. Don't skimp on scales or calipers though.

Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672791
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Wolfie: Care to translate ?

You a proper they to stick pile ?


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672793
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Like wolfie said. Range brass is free. That is usually 60% of your cost. After that, your costs goes way down. During the off season, use cast bullets.
30/30 casings last for at 12 reloadings or more. Lots of different powders work. Still working on an old jug of RL7. Not the cleanest, but goes bang and brings home the venison or pork.
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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: white17] #7672799
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Originally Posted by white17
Wolfie: Care to translate ?

You a proper they to stick pile ?



are you a Prepper as in person who stocks a lot of stuff for when the manure hits the fan Stock pile


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672800
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Thank you Rosetta Stone laugh


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672802
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Yeah sorry about that , fat fingered on my phone

Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672818
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I priced some stuff out and if you can find it

1lb of LVR powder 40 dollars 200 rounds worth of powder about 20 cents a round
100 bullets 45 dollars 45 cents a round
primers I am going to figure those at 10 cents a round if you can find them but to be fair it could go 13 cents a round

brass I will assume you have your own and saved it for a while

98 dollars in supplies for 100 rounds + tax and shipping
because the powder is enough for 200 rounds adding another 45 in bullets and 13 in primers you can make 200 rounds for 156 dollars or 78 cents a round as long as you have the brass already.


now equipment costs

16 dollars for Lee modern reloading second edition I put this first on the equipment list for a reason

180 dollars challenger press kit

52 dollars Lee 4 die deluxe 30-30 die set

12 dollars Lee quick trim die 30-30

260 dollars in equipment cost + tax and shipping
this is still quite close to the 300 dollars I used to tell people you would have to start reloading + components

this will let you turn out rounds



it looks like lever evolution rounds when in stock sell at about 2.40 a round

how many rounds will you make can you amortize the cost of the equipment out over that and feel right about it

if you make 1000 rounds you have 26 cents a round in equipment cost

so cost to make 1000 rounds is about $1.04 a round plus your time

at 2000 rounds it falls to about $0.91

of course there is some load development cost and a dropped primer here or there but this should give you an idea of how many rounds you would need to make to make it worth your while and of course your time


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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672837
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I guess it depends how much you shoot...

A few years ago, one box of factory 30-30 ,over several years, took 15 deer and 2 turkeys and a couple sighters. That's a pretty good return on investment.... grin

Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Canvasback2] #7672904
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The main reason I reload 30-30 is because I am a huge fan of the Speer 170 gain hotcor bullet and the only way to get it is to load, and with the LVR powder hitting the market it has taken it to a whole different level plus I do load some reduced cast loads to play with. But I have had my reloading equipment for probably 40 years so it has paid for itself many times over with all the rounds and different calibers I have reloaded for (I used to shoot about 1000 rounds of 38/357 a month). Plus you have to factor in your time if you are looking at it from a purely economic standpoint and not just an extension of a hobby. Right now is a tough time to get into reloading as components are very difficult to find and are very expensive when you do find them particularly primers. There is a lot of satisfaction in harvesting game with a round that you loaded so that has to be worth something.

Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: Yukon John] #7672954
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
I don't look at it as a money thing. When I want ammo, I want it now! If I can load it, i do. More of an availability thing with me.



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Re: can you still save money reloading 30-30 ammo [Re: K91773] #7673000
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Originally Posted by K91773
The main reason I reload 30-30 is because I am a huge fan of the Speer 170 gain hotcor bullet and the only way to get it is to load,


and they have been backordered for 2 years I ordered some of the 150s because it didn't seem like I was ever going to get 170s again


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