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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7675996
09/21/22 02:37 PM
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I used to think the .223 was too small. Not anymore. Grandson drops them DRT.Good bullets and shot placement make a difference with any rifle caliber.

Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: charles] #7676001
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Originally Posted by charles
I used to think the .223 was too small. Not anymore. Grandson drops them DRT.Good bullets and shot placement make a difference with any rifle caliber.



I can do that with any 40gr .22lr also but the does not mean it is an adequate deer round.

Just look what all Ryan shoots up north with a.22 mag. It works well for him but illegal for the rest of us and a lot of hunters should not try it not having the skills he has.

Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676214
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22 mag is poachers cal of choicej

Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676221
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When subsistance hunting, a .22 LR has killed alot of deer. Even a .17 in the head at close range will put deer meat on the table. Shot placement is everything.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676496
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My 9 year old (at the time) grandson and my AR. Along with target practice I would bring up deer pictures on the internet. Had him put his finger on the spot the bullet had to go depending on the angle. Its a lot like bowhunting. Get in range shoot careful. not rocket science at all.

P.S. there is nothing to be gained by talking to someone who thinks the government can protect them from gangsters and other miscreants.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Gary Benson] #7676519
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
When subsistence hunting, a .22 LR has killed alot of deer. Even a .17 in the head at close range will put deer meat on the table. Shot placement is everything.


it is "reasonable equipment" if it works

they dropped all caliber restrictions for Deer in WI by saying "reasonable in reducing game to bag"

was talking with our warden he wanted to write a guy a ticket so bad for unreasonable equipment 17hmr but the deer didn't take 2 steps shot placement is everything with the little guns and 60% even on the big guns
the guy did get the tickets for shooting out of season poaching and trespassing. but the warden was told with as well as 17hmr worked they couldn't call it unreasonable.

treat it more like archery hunting and 223 works fine

I shot a buck with a 223 varmint soft point round lungs shot , slipped it high through the ribs it makes a mess of those lungs and it went 25 yards it definitely works just zero blood when it laid down dead even .
just what came out it's nose and mouth.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676557
09/22/22 08:22 AM
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If you want a good deer bullet for the 223 or similar , the 62 grains Barnes TSX or TTSX are pretty darn good. I use them in my 223 WSSM now, but even in the 223Rem you get an exit wound with them for the most part. If I remember right, Remington sells loaded ammo with the TSX in 223Rem and call it Hog hammer.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676688
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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676739
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I have only killed 3 deer with my. 223. Don't plan on shooting anymore. I like high shoulder shots. Both bucks fell where they stood but took a 2nd round to finish. My 6.5 Grendel, I've killed almost 50 . Beast of a round on an AR15 platform.

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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676759
09/22/22 02:36 PM
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I plan to use/setup my handi-rifle this year .223 for deer season. Single shot break. 3x9 Vortex 50mm scope.

There are some heavier ammo out there. 62grain to 77 grain. But you need the right barrel twist for the heaviest bullet.

I have some Australian Outback @ 69gr. HPBT Matchking. at 100 yards they should work well.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: seniortrap] #7676769
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Originally Posted by seniortrap
I plan to use/setup my handi-rifle this year .223 for deer season. Single shot break. 3x9 Vortex 50mm scope.

There are some heavier ammo out there. 62grain to 77 grain. But you need the right barrel twist for the heaviest bullet.

I have some Australian Outback @ 69gr. HPBT Matchking. at 100 yards they should work well.


match bullets aren't made for game some may work

Hornady white tail
Deer season XP
Full Boar
nosler ttsx
Barnes tsx
federal fusion
federal nosler partitions

they are all 55 to 62 gr bonded or copper bullets

the problem with most 223 bullets is they are soft points or polymer tip type for varmints and they come apart too fast or they are FMJ or match.

then in the minority is bonded or monolithic copper bullets that hold together and expand

your handi rifle can be 1:12 or 1:9 twist the 1:9 should handle any of the 62gr and under the 1:12 you might want to try the 55gr ones first


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7676825
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62 grain Nosler partitions make a nice mushroom and dont break apart. Have not tried the barnes tsx in 223 but I expect they will do the same thing. They sure shine in my 300 win mag anyway.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Providence Farm] #7677175
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by charles
I used to think the .223 was too small. Not anymore. Grandson drops them DRT.Good bullets and shot placement make a difference with any rifle caliber.



I can do that with any 40gr .22lr also but the does not mean it is an adequate deer round.

Just look what all Ryan shoots up north with a.22 mag. It works well for him but illegal for the rest of us and a lot of hunters should not try it not having the skills he has.


My grandpa once told me, when I asked if a 22 would kill Caribou, that "ALL animals are made of flesh and bone and bleed just like us so how far would you want to get shot by a 22?"

223 isn't my first choice for grizzly or moose but it will kill them. More than enough for Wolves and Caribou imo.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7677266
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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7677852
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Did you ever wonder why there are so many different guns/calibers/configurations?.It's because all weapons are a compromise.

Personally, I love them all; and use a huge variety. The biggest deer of my life probably dropped the fastest from one shot out of near worn out 7.62x39 SKS.

Lately I have been having bear problems. I can't carry big bear medicine every time i step out of my house. But, I can carry a .45 ACP super +P, heavy lead shaped to penetrate bear fur. Not ideal, but, will work better than the artillery still back at the house.


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Re: "hunters" and the .223 [Re: Wolfdog91] #7677925
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I've killed over 2 dozen hogs, many over 200#, with 73 grain Hornady ELDM handloads from my AR.
Longest shot was 214 yards on about a 175# sow. One shot. She ran in a circle then fell.

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