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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677548
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" "Inflation can be mit igated by reducing demand and/or by increasing supply," tweeted Ackman of Pershing Square Capital. "Doesn't it make more sense to moderate wage inflation with increased immigration than by raising rates, destroying demand, putting people out of work, and causing a recession?

An influx of workers could add some slack to a historically tight labor market, in which there are still roughly two open positions for every one person looking for a job.
Unemployment, at 3.7%, is near its lowest level in half a century."

I'm not sure the next recession will have high unemployment? There is a labor shortage. Reduced demand for labor, may cure this?


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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: yotetrapper30] #7677677
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
All I want from y'all is what month is the market going to hit rock bottom? LOL


If I could tell you that we'd both be rich.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: Steven 49er] #7677694
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
All I want from y'all is what month is the market going to hit rock bottom? LOL


If I could tell you that we'd both be rich.



I'm with Steven on this. However, if you watch VIX... the CBOE volatility index................you can see that today we got a bit over 32. Usually we are in the 20-25 range. The VIX moves inversely to the S&P 500 index.......when the market goes up..VIX goes down & V/V

A reading over 30 usually gets peoples' attention. But if you look back to the lows of March 2020 you will see the VIX topped out a bit over 82. If you see a reading like that again it is my opinion that we have pretty much reached the point of capitulation. There may be some grinding around at that level for a while but most of the sellers are probably exhausted.

VIX topped out a bit over 80 in 2008.

Today was sort of a perfect storm. First of all it was Friday.....always a sketchy day, It was also a weekly options expiration which will induce a lot of hedging by dealers, and I still think the big players are digesting Powell's comments and figuring out the likelihood of a recession and how severe it will be. They are probably still de-risking their positions ( selling)
Just my 2 cents


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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677698
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Always appreciate your insight Ken. Thank you

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677701
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how does one watch the CBOE volatility index?

link?

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677707
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If you have a "watchlist" or a live screen through your broker you can enter the symbol.......VIX. My platform will give me choices asking .......is this a stock, option, bond, index ? It is an index so choose that.

If you don't have those options you can use something like Yahoo Finance. Type VIX in the search bar at the top. Bloomberg probably has it too. Those might be delayed by about 20 minutes but maybe not.

You can try Seeking Alpha website.

Maybe this will work

https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/VIX


If you want to learn more about VIX you can read here

https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/

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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677725
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TD Ameritrade has a new platform. Think or Swim. No cost to open an account. You can download the app. Lots of information on trading strategies. Options trading etc... Also once you have an account open. There is an option to learn by paper trading if you are new to investing. I am speaking for myself. I wish I would of invested on my own years ago. I always invested in the market. But it was under an employer plan etc... I have learned quite a lot. You are never to old to start. I started at 55 And for you young people. There is a huge opportunity presenting it self in the market. Long term. Over time. Invest in the market. Warren Buffett is in his 90s. His famous quote holds true to this day. When the market is rising be fearful. When there is fear in the market be fearless. I use a lot of pictures to keep me focused on my long term goal [Linked Image] Good Luck

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677730
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Thank you, Sir!

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7677862
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We are going to see if Powell is going to have his Voelcker moment. There is a tremendous amount of pressure against him to ease. If they do Katy bar the door.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678203
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He would be a laughing stock of an entire nation if he caves........even if it's what some people want.

I think Powell and the whole FOMC know a recession is coming but they refuse to admit it. Just like inflation was "transitory".


I wonder if Yellen will take Powell aside and whine about the increasing debt service costs ? I think I read last week that the rate increases so far will add 2.1 TRILLION to the deficit ANNUALLY !

Will Biden and Schumer be talking about that ?


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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678204
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C'Mon, Man!

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678238
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Powell can tell them he is working on his dual mandate. If the politicians want to pass a third mandate like "keep the economy growing" then I guess he can juggle three mandates at once. smile


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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678389
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Big Ponzie scheme.
Time is up,cards are collapsing,suckers are ready to lose it all.
People soon wont be able to get any substantial amount of money out of the bank,probably cant right now.

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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678413
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They're going to keep monkeying with things and drag things out. I think we're heading into a recession and there is no way of stopping it, but don't worry the government will change the definition so we aren't.

I don't know what effect the messed up supply lines will have on a recession, every time you turn around something else is in short supply.

I know where there are job openings going unfilled because of uncompetitive pay in the local job market and or management issues. If you want good employees you have to take care of them.

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: Okie Farmer] #7678419
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Originally Posted by Okie Farmer


I know where there are job openings going unfilled because of uncompetitive pay in the local job market and or management issues. If you want good employees you have to take care of them.


Or you need people who need work.


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Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678577
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Wonder if the gov can't raise taxes on the corporate world then give it back in a Investment Credit type thing to get the ability for the U.S. to produce again. Of course then you have the cash register operator and shelf stocker who thinks they deserve the same pay as the owner of the business, at which time they are replaced by auto means.

Or maybe keep the import taxes off of China, Mexico and Canada and keep the inflationary tax pressures on the consumers at bay. People are at at stage if the Braves can't make the same take home as the Chiefs then even if they need work they won't. They will riot in the streets when the gov handouts dry up. Its part of the Utopian dream when everyone makes the same pay, the only exception being those at the very non replaceable top.

Utopian just seems less hostile than Socialist or even Commie. Here is some memories of the past. Luckily the town (very pleasant one I might add) still exists as a lesson of the past and what having the freedom of individual advancement does rather than same pay, same clothes. same houses for everybody.
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/indiana/new-harmony-town-utopia-in/

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: yotetrapper30] #7678600
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
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I know where there are job openings going unfilled because of uncompetitive pay in the local job market and or management issues. If you want good employees you have to take care of them.


Or you need people who need work.


They had some that left because they wouldn't give them more hours.

Re: Stocks Bitcoin experts = crickets [Re: jbyrd63] #7678618
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" Business cycles mark the periodic growth and decline of a nation's economy. "

Recessions are normal. You can print money and buy them off for awhile. You can also create them. In the old days..........


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