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Florida #7680827
09/28/22 12:09 PM
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As ya'll know I am not the praying type. But I hope that the folks in Florida get through this one as safe as they can.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680831
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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680835
09/28/22 12:20 PM
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I hope they all evacuated. This is a big scary suma buck


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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680858
09/28/22 01:03 PM
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This is indeed the largest one in a long time-but others have been close, or even more, Cat 5, but slowed a bit by the time they reached shore.

Either way, all of them are fraught with risk. Just sustained wind at 72 MPH is very dangerous.

I would be hauling horses for people right up to the wind just beginning off shore a ways. I always had my quitting point. That way no one became complacent.

So many think when the winds die down they can wander outside . The quiet, ominous eye is an unforgettable experience. That fools almost everyone inexperienced.

The best thing to do is leave.

The only houses I've ever known to stand in stalwart defiance to generations of storms are the old time "conch houses" . Small, thick walled concrete boxes riddled with rebar, tiny windows . Ugly, but effective. They may lose the roof, but the rest stays.

I feel for everything living during this one.

Re: Florida [Re: Sharon] #7680861
09/28/22 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharon
This is indeed the largest one in a long time-but others have been close, or even more, Cat 5, but slowed a bit by the time they reached shore.

Either way, all of them are fraught with risk. Just sustained wind at 72 MPH is very dangerous.

I would be hauling horses for people right up to the wind just beginning off shore a ways. I always had my quitting point. That way no one became complacent.

So many think when the winds die down they can wander outside . The quiet, ominous eye is an unforgettable experience. That fools almost everyone inexperienced.

The best thing to do is leave.

The only houses I've ever known to stand in stalwart defiance to generations of storms are the old time "conch houses" . Small, thick walled concrete boxes riddled with rebar, tiny windows . Ugly, but effective. They may lose the roof, but the rest stays.

I feel for everything living during this one.



I was just telling the missus yesterday how grand dad's house in Clearwater was built. One story cinder block with real concrete stucco, low roof with no overhang and tile roof. Probably built in the fifties of forties. The kind of house I'd feel comfortable riding one out in.


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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680865
09/28/22 01:19 PM
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Unless you have a crystal ball even better than JByrds and know what this storm might do different than the last 8 or 10 I would not reccomend staying no matter how a home was constructed. If yall had 50 or 60 total losses like I did down in Cameron Parish after Rita I'm betting you'd agree.

Lots of ppl drowned in low roof cinder block houses that year when the water line came up above their ceilings.

I'm not scared of much but riding out a Cat 4 or 5 in low country is just asking for it


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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680880
09/28/22 01:30 PM
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I agree , Hoss. Those old conch houses did get storm surge in the Keys . The ones inland more , on slightly higher ground didn't.

Either way, losing the roof during that event would never convince me to stay in one !

Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680885
09/28/22 01:40 PM
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Didn't say I would stay in that location just that the construction materials would give me more confidence than my current sawmill slat stick house.
I don't trust this one in our summertime popcorn thunderstorms, lol.


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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680887
09/28/22 01:42 PM
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Especially when you consider the highest elevation in Pinellas County is only fifty foot and they are calling for possible twenty foot storm surge at landfall.

Wind you can build against water not so much.


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Re: Florida [Re: warrior] #7680889
09/28/22 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Didn't say I would stay in that location just that the construction materials would give me more confidence than my current sawmill slat stick house.
I don't trust this one in our summertime popcorn thunderstorms, lol.



I knew what you meant ! I've done that there, made those decisions . Of course, those near to the ocean need to just flat leave , no matter what house they have access to. The real troubles for them are after the storm.

Being stuck in location during one, yes, like you , to be in the strongest build of a house possible is vital.

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Warrior my Grandparents house in Clearwater was almost the same thing but I remember red brick.

Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680906
09/28/22 01:58 PM
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I would've boarded up, tied down and locked the door a week ago and beat the rush out of town.

JMO, but having a plan well executed and not needing it beats running out in the storm at the last minute.


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09/28/22 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
I would've boarded up, tied down and locked the door a week ago and beat the rush out of town.

JMO, but having a plan well executed and not needing it beats running out in the storm at the last minute.



Exactly.

I've seen people do that, and get stuck in a line of never ending traffic ! As someone mentioned earlier, rots o ruk in an EV .

Coming back to a tangled mess of power lines, flooding, trees down, no power, and varmints crawling all over the place wasn't fun to endure.


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Yup, and hope what you left was built stout enough to still be standing when you return.


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Re: Florida [Re: Scuba1] #7680912
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Yes, but what a mess....ugh....I have more memories of the cleanup and waiting for the power line men , who worked constantly day and night, than the storm itself.

Nowadays , the risk of looters and outright thugs wandering around is much higher, I think, than when I was there. A LOT of local Floridians will take care of that trash in short order also if they wander into the wrong neighborhood.

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Mom and Dad were headed to New Orleans when Camille came ashore. They ended up running north through Mississippi through the mess and his stories of that trip, or maybe I vaguely recall it as I was along for the ride just not born yet, were pretty scary to a kid.

But Dad has always been that way. He was standing in the living room getting the last minute updates on the tornado that took the roof off rather than joining mama in the center bathroom. From the time the power went out to the house coming apart he made it ten feet to dive under a table.

I'll be the last one to shelter after the wife and kids but I won't wait that late.


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Re: Florida [Re: Sharon] #7680918
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Originally Posted by Sharon
Yes, but what a mess....ugh....I have more memories of the cleanup and waiting for the power line men , who worked constantly day and night, than the storm itself.

Nowadays , the risk of looters and outright thugs wandering around is much higher, I think, than when I was there. A LOT of local Floridians will take care of that trash in short order also if they wander into the wrong neighborhood.


Yup, that area has grown so much in my lifetime. I imagine it's wall to wall subdivisions and strip malls now. I recall nothing but miles and miles of palmetto flatwoods from Ocala until well past Port Richey. My last trip down was built up well above Weeki Watchi and that was in the early nineties.


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Hope they're all safe!

On a lighter note....I saw this post and said to the woman... oh ya, lets turn the tv on and watch some idiot in the surf board pose bucking the wind, telling everyone they need to be gone. Sure enough!!!! laugh

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grin Some things never change, racer man, they always do that. Police got to where they just tell them-your risk. Don't come crying for the coast guard when you're drug out to sea...

Ocala is my favourite place in all of FLA. My father was born there. I showed some of the finest horses in the country there.

When I think of palmettos, I think of moccasins and rattlers. And black widows.

A lot has changed there, though ranchers have done a remarkable job in keeping that prime horse country in Ocala the same.

Seems like the whole state is going to be affected by this one.

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Them palmetto flats skeered me. We spent three years, 73-76, living in Groveland. Dad had sixty head of mixed cracker/brahma cattle. I ain't never seen a snakier place and I get real nervous not being able to see my feet.


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