Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Kevin Colpetzer]
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10/10/22 09:29 PM
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I’ll stick with the original. The 6.5 Swede Me too! My best friend has one and I have helped him track several deer shot with his 6.5 "Bleedmore"
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/10/22 09:45 PM
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We have shot 5 antelope and 1/2 dozen deer with my sons no tracking at all. But we reload 140 grain partition bullets using H4350. For an all around deer and antelope gun at a cheap price What's not to like. I think it has to many bashers lol . It's a fine rifle and a good round.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: 160user]
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10/10/22 09:53 PM
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I’ll stick with the original. The 6.5 Swede Me too! My best friend has one and I have helped him track several deer shot with his 6.5 "Bleedmore" He must need to learn how to shoot or select the right bullets. Maybe both my 260 is great. Beyond that do you think a 243 sucks how about a 7mm08? 243 100 gr 2950 fps 6mm 7/08 139gr 2900 fps 7mm. 260/ Creedmoor is right in the middle. So if the 6.5 sucks then those nowhere 2 known great deer and proven deer rounds must suck also. Or maybe it's the shooter wanting to blame something else.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/10/22 10:13 PM
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6.5 is my favorite bullet for Deer sized game.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/10/22 10:20 PM
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I'm in the ground of every rifle and round is a good one some need built some out of the box. Reloading your own rounds and knowing what you are doing is the key.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/10/22 10:57 PM
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If people actually too time to understand where their shooting on an animal and why along with 30min worth of understanding terminal ballistics I'm 90% sure alot of these problems would be non existent. Most people seem to just shoot where their grand daddy told them to with a * good nuff * zero and *good nuff ammo. Yeah grand daddy was dropping deer left and right with that shot placement out of a 30-06 with 200gr SP but that just plain ain't gonna cut it with a 6.5 most of the time.
Most people just plain don't want to put any work in past buying a cheap combo and getting it on paper @100 then hitting the woods . See it with people wanting to hunt hogs all the time. Act like they need a bazooka to take a hog and when I ask them to show me on a picture where they take the shot it's usually too far back or too high .
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wanna Be]
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10/10/22 11:04 PM
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With the right shot placement a .22 will kill a deer. The issue is the 6.5’s are cheap with cheap scopes and parents buy them for their kids who can’t hit a bucket at 50yds, so therefore many wounded deer. CJ is 2 for 2 with his .243, but uses a rest under Dad or Brothers supervision. Plus he takes lots of trigger pulls without ammo, then with ammo. He know where to shoot and will tell you exactly where he hit the deer. The light on our phones has found all his deer we’ve watched drop anyways, lol. He likes to track the blood…thinks it’s cool. That's what I was getting at.its an outstanding round same as the 260 and 6.5 sweet. All 3 are ballistic triplets. So if someone claimed one stinks they all 3 must stink along with all the calibers that are close. Since the speed for example is know world wide for great preformance on game any round pushing the same projectiles at the same speed or faster should be just as good. So if it's not the round and it's not. Rounds on both ends larger and smaller are great for deer like your sons 243. So it must be a poor selection of bullets or a poor preformance by the shooter. I don't no cj's age but congrats to him.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/10/22 11:12 PM
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I don't deer hunt or antelope hunt and have only shot one antelope with a 6.5 Grendel and that's my extent of hunting except for birds. I love my Ruger American Predator 6.5 Creedmoor and it's a great target gun, it has custom reloads that I loaded myself, and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a deer with it if I had to. Brought it out to 625 yards and was still hitting a 12" plate but that isn't a very ethical shot so I didn't practice it much.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: TheYouthTrapper]
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10/10/22 11:19 PM
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I don't deer hunt or antelope hunt and have only shot one antelope with a 6.5 Grendel and that's my extent of hunting except for birds. I love my Ruger American Predator 6.5 Creedmoor and it's a great target gun, it has custom reloads that I loaded myself, and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a deer with it if I had to. Brought it out to 625 yards and was still hitting a 12" plate but that isn't a very ethical shot so I didn't practice it much. O boy you mentioned shooting past 100yd.....
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/10/22 11:20 PM
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Haters, haters, haters. I can take or leave the 6.5 CM but the improvements and changes in accuracy are impressive. I built a 6.5 CM on a Savage model 10 action and put it in a chasy and and a brake on it and it shoots pretty darn good. I don't hunt with it but it is accurate.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: TheYouthTrapper]
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10/11/22 12:50 AM
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They get bad rap, but given the chance with the right bullets. They are a very good deer rifle. We have a few in different models. I carry a Browning X bolt stalker. It’s light, handy and shoots very well. I am shooting a 140 gr sierra SBT loaded with RL 19. Shots have been between 50- 250 yards. All have died very close to where the bullet impacted them. I am sure that I could have done the same thing with any number of calibers, but this combination really works for me. I have not shot mine past 400, that’s far as I can shoot. I have no need to shoot farther, but to each his own.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/11/22 06:23 AM
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If theres an animal in N. America I need to kill or want to hunt I have the proper tool no matter the season.
Firearm manufacturers need to sell guns. To do that they pay gun writers and magazines for articles. Just cause it doesn't say AD at the top of the page doesn't mean its not.
If the tool you choose makes you happy stick with it. What I think of it or what the blow hard down the street from you thinks of it, is unimportant.
There are people who choose not to learn where the bullet should go, do not put in enough practice and even some for whom practice wont help. If you ever seen military firearm training in boot camp some people just cant shoot.
Who cares? It doesn't make you special or any better of a human because you practice and put in the time. Even on those TV reality shows a successful hunt is not the difference between survival and starving.
A guy that shoots and hunts poorly is still less likely to support a gun grabbing politician.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/11/22 06:30 AM
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If you'd hear the amount of shooting that goes on a day or two right before Deer season around here from people either sighting in their gun or taking their first shots since last year checking the gun, it's no wonder people miss Deer.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: TheYouthTrapper]
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10/11/22 08:03 AM
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O boy you mentioned shooting past 100yd.....
Did I open the wrong can of worms? Could have. Don't you know no one need so shoot past 50 yards or any thing besides a 30/30 to kill a deer.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/11/22 09:11 AM
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Why do I have the feeling no one is gonna understand what the videos are even about.... ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2022/10/full-34110-153273-edd324b4c9dcda260fd4ec3293cd1a4c.jpg) Is that Eric Cortina? Needs More eh? So not about the 6.5 but all about after market mods? Perhaps it would help of somebody (perhaps them) had explained what they were up to, or perhaps the Needs More is a series that is understood?
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/11/22 11:14 AM
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OK, had a chance to watch all those, and yes, that was Eric. Interesting that he could take an inexpensive Rem 700 and go from a 3 MOA gun to sub MOA and was not hard doing it. I'm working on a 6mm Rem and have done somewhat the same. Factory wood stock now has free floated barrel and action was pillar bedded. Also has a new Timney trigger. Load ladders ready to go.
As one who started reloading recently, with focus on loading for accuracy, one of the most interesting theories I've run into is the issue of seating depth. Seems to be near dogma that guys want to chase the lands. Eric put out a series of videos that ran counter to that. His use of factory ammo in these videos proved the same. You don't need to. What matters more is timing of the bullet to barrel harmonics for the load in question. He does it in these videos with a harmonics barrel tuner. He did it in the other videos by altering seating depth of bullet......but far off the lands.
Second thing that came to me about lack of need to load to the lands was how many gun makers offer a 1 MOA or less accuracy guarantee, contingent only on use of factory match ammo. All of that is loaded to SAMMI specs and none of it customized to the gun.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/11/22 11:27 AM
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6.5 or not the video is all about the simple things that can make a rifle really shoot
they just needed something with real potential for accuracy to use as a benchmark
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
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10/11/22 06:02 PM
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Could have. Don't you know no one need so shoot past 50 yards or any thing besides a 30/30 to kill a deer.
I don't deer hunt, but that's why I said in my original post that I had no reason to practice a 625-yard shot because it's unethical.
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Re: 6.5 needsmore
[Re: TheYouthTrapper]
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10/11/22 06:15 PM
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Could have. Don't you know no one need so shoot past 50 yards or any thing besides a 30/30 to kill a deer.
I don't deer hunt, but that's why I said in my original post that I had no reason to practice a 625-yard shot because it's unethical. not if your shooting the enemy shooting 625 yards is about learning how to do it and how to do it in conditions less than ideal. like a gusting 20mph full value cross wind. It is your Ethical duty as an American to know how to own your 1/4 mile 440 yards
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