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Green New Deal....impossible #7696932
10/20/22 09:15 PM
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The subject of this article shows just one of many reasons why implementing the GND is impossible.
In the past few decades there has not been one mine proposal in the USA, as well as in most other
Countries that the Marxist environmentalists have not opposed.

Just recently environmentalists have convinced the Biden administration to cancel the permits for a major underground mine in Minnesota. This underground mine would have minimal surface impacts, as well as provide the metals crucial to the GND.

Opposition to new mines by the enviro whackos either illustrates their stupidity, or the fraudulent nature of this man-made climate issue; or both.

https://www.mining.com/charts-almos...-energy-copper-demand-and-mining-supply/


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696936
10/20/22 09:17 PM
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Yep, it's not about the environment. All about destroying this country!

Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696937
10/20/22 09:19 PM
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you will see the fruits of this during the coming winter in the eu.


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Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696938
10/20/22 09:19 PM
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Years ago it’s was about saving the Forrest.......now they level the Forrest to install a field of solar panels.

It’s alway something with these Lefties


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696954
10/20/22 09:41 PM
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Run Forrest, Run.... smile


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Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696975
10/20/22 10:04 PM
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Since they won’t approve a mine, pipeline, or well permit, they deserve to be cold and have no transportation or electricity to charge their worshipped electric cars.

Look at the reality of oil wells on private land. A recently completed project has two adjacent well pads for a total of 14 wells. Those wells pull from under 8,960 surface acres. No other surface disturbance is necessary. The wells tie into a pipeline to distribute the goods. Last month one well produced more than 16,000 barrels of oil.

A huge new electric generating plant was built and runs on local natural gas.

Personally, I love old dinosaurs!


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Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696979
10/20/22 10:06 PM
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Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7696981
10/20/22 10:07 PM
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My dad designed rock crushers for a career, his desk had a sticker that read "Ban Mining, Let the Tards (edited) Freeze to Death in the Dark."

Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697048
10/20/22 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by waggler
The subject of this article shows just one of many reasons why implementing the GND is impossible.
In the past few decades there has not been one mine proposal in the USA, as well as in most other
Countries that the Marxist environmentalists have not opposed.

Just recently environmentalists have convinced the Biden administration to cancel the permits for a major underground mine in Minnesota. This underground mine would have minimal surface impacts, as well as provide the metals crucial to the GND.

Opposition to new mines by the enviro whackos either illustrates their stupidity, or the fraudulent nature of this man-made climate issue; or both.

https://www.mining.com/charts-almos...-energy-copper-demand-and-mining-supply/



Glad its not like that here.
New mines being developed left and right around here.Gold mines and Nickel mines.Natives own 50% of all development and guaranteed jobs and contracts,and training.
Everybody is filthy with mine money.-New trucks everywhere.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697050
10/20/22 11:31 PM
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Whats green on the outside and red on the inside?

Not a watermelon.


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Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: Boco] #7697126
10/21/22 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by waggler
The subject of this article shows just one of many reasons why implementing the GND is impossible.
In the past few decades there has not been one mine proposal in the USA, as well as in most other
Countries that the Marxist environmentalists have not opposed.

Just recently environmentalists have convinced the Biden administration to cancel the permits for a major underground mine in Minnesota. This underground mine would have minimal surface impacts, as well as provide the metals crucial to the GND.

Opposition to new mines by the enviro whackos either illustrates their stupidity, or the fraudulent nature of this man-made climate issue; or both.

https://www.mining.com/charts-almos...-energy-copper-demand-and-mining-supply/



Glad its not like that here.
New mines being developed left and right around here.Gold mines and Nickel mines.Natives own 50% of all development and guaranteed jobs and contracts,and training.
Everybody is filthy with mine money.-New trucks everywhere.

Here the Natives have casinos, they mine cash....Nearby almost every Casino, out of site is a slummy neighborhood/village where that cash is spent on drugs and booze. Tribal police handle that, so not much makes the news. Glad they fair better where you live.


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697199
10/21/22 07:42 AM
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funny, I remember back about 5-10 years ago there was a proposed mine on the boarder of WI and the UP of MI along the Menominee river.
All the guys I know who fished the river alot were against it. They had no problem buying new pickup trucks and boats that used the same minerals that the mine would supply tho.
I guess as long as its not in my backyard its OK. I thought it kind of hypocritical.



https://wisconsinrivers.org/menominee-river-metal-mine-update/

How about the proposed mine in Alaska, in Bristol bay, I assume you guys are all for it?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...xt-steps-on-alaska-mine-project-by-dec-2

Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697205
10/21/22 07:55 AM
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I don't understand why any company would accept a permit that can be cancelled at any time. Our permitting process needs to be changed so that once a permit is issued it cannot be cancelled unless the conditions of the permit are violated.

Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: Nessmuck] #7697218
10/21/22 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Years ago it’s was about saving the Forrest.......now they level the Forrest to install a field of solar panels.

It’s alway something with these Lefties


Plus companies that cannot meet emission standards are paying large timberland owners , not to cut their trees,(carbon offsets) so these companies can continue spewing CO2. All the while, the trees in the forest are absorbing CO2 for free. What a scam, it’s called green washing.

Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697234
10/21/22 08:40 AM
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Its going to be a hoot when the new regulations for AC systems come into effect on Jan 1st next year. I was talking to my neighbor yesterday and he installs and services them for a living and he said he will quit and mow lawns instead when the new regs go into effect and he has done AC work for over 20 years.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697265
10/21/22 09:49 AM
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Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: Scuba1] #7697307
10/21/22 11:15 AM
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Got a link to these new regs? I did not know about these.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: waggler] #7697311
10/21/22 11:32 AM
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And Biden is burning up cash faster then it can be printed….well he told the truth for once….build back better!


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: Green New Deal....impossible [Re: bowhunter27295] #7697359
10/21/22 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Got a link to these new regs? I did not know about these.


https://www.hvac.com/resources/2023-hvac-regulations/


One fun thing is that the return lines then have to be twice the size they are now. Say you have a system that currently uses a 16 inch return duct ... next year a system of the same capacity will need a 30 " diameter return. Great if your old system breaks down and ya need a new one. In order for the new one to be installed they first have to tear your house down laugh


Let's go Brandon

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