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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723619
11/21/22 06:51 PM
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Similar happened here last year.Friend of my older son shot a slammer buck during bow season.Although he did nothing wrong,,a local warden liked to hunt very near where he got it.Gave him the third degree.Kicker is,,this kid wouldn't poach an egg let alone any game.Theres good ones and bad ones just like any walk in life.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723625
11/21/22 06:53 PM
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A few rules of engagement for future consideration because IMO you ainít getting nothing out of this encounter but more aggravation


Always film and record interactions with guberment officials

Be very careful what you say to them and better to not to say anything

Donít invite them into a situation. Because there isnít situation that they canít make worse

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723662
11/21/22 07:17 PM
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We have a doe season here in KS. Dont have to deal with trophy hunters


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: danny clifton] #7723665
11/21/22 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
We have a doe season here in KS. Dont have to deal with trophy hunters

A doe season? As in only certain times of the year you can shoot a doe?

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Boco] #7723673
11/21/22 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Marty
be careful who you make enemies of....especially when it will not do anything to resolve the situation. you need to play the game so it benefits you or at least is not to your detriment.


Thats called the Ben Dover attitude.


I thought it was the canadien attitude?



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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723683
11/21/22 07:38 PM
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A doe only season Wanna be. During the regular season you have to buy a pricey either sex tag before you can buy anterless only. in the antlerless only season you dont have to.

Some good guys in our wildlife dept but seems they no longer have much influence


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723690
11/21/22 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
It's hard to teach my kids respect for THEM when they hear about this type of behavior from a cousin they really look up to.

Just thought I would share some examples and experience on why I don't always jump on the back the blue band wagon and prefere to keep THEM art arms length. And why many people distrust THEM.






The use of the word "THEM" 3 times in 3 sentences is why I interpreted this as grouping all officers together. Most of THEM do deserve respect...like anyone else.. No need to keep THEM at arms length. Most of THEM can be trusted.

Hope it all works out for your cuz.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723709
11/21/22 07:58 PM
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In this state of makes on the neighbors they can choose to let it rot.
There is good and bad in this world
Had some fine warden s some not to good just hunters and people.
Use smaller gun place your shot
Bigger not better in guns


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723721
11/21/22 08:09 PM
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there is no longer a majority of 'good' law enforcement or the bad ones would be taken out by the good ones....



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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7723722
11/21/22 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
It's hard to teach my kids respect for THEM when they hear about this type of behavior from a cousin they really look up to.

Just thought I would share some examples and experience on why I don't always jump on the back the blue band wagon and prefere to keep THEM art arms length. And why many people distrust THEM.






The use of the word "THEM" 3 times in 3 sentences is why I interpreted this as grouping all officers together. Most of THEM do deserve respect...like anyone else.. No need to keep THEM at arms length. Most of THEM can be trusted.

Hope it all works out for your cuz.

SW, I do respect you here. Your post though could be interpreted as your a retired GW who still protects GW's no matter what, thin green line lol. However you gave advice to the OP to tell his Cousin to record future encounters. That's solid advice and unfortunately in the times we're in, necessary and kudos for giving it. It sucks to have to record and spend money on a gopro.

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how DNR's seem to be going left.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723730
11/21/22 08:17 PM
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When I was a kid the old saying "A man is only as good as his word" was something people really believed.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: danny clifton] #7723732
11/21/22 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
When I was a kid the old saying "A man is only as good as his word" was something people really believed.

It was like that, not so much now. Now, you have to CYA even for law abiding folk.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723735
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It would be against the law to not follow up on a deer here in PA, it would be a wanton waste violation. Anybody know what the law is here in PA about crossing property lines to retrieve your kill?

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Muskeg] #7723737
11/21/22 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskeg
A few rules of engagement for future consideration because IMO you ainít getting nothing out of this encounter but more aggravation


Always film and record interactions with guberment officials

Be very careful what you say to them and better to not to say anything

Donít invite them into a situation. Because there isnít situation that they canít make worse

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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: lumberjack391] #7723743
11/21/22 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
It would be against the law to not follow up on a deer here in PA, it would be a wanton waste violation. Anybody know what the law is here in PA about crossing property lines to retrieve your kill?


Pg. 17 of the Digest...

"unlawful for a hunter to refuse or neglect to make a reasonable effort to retrieve any killed or injured game or wildlife. Hunters attempting to recover wildlife are not permitted to enter private property without permission."

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723757
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Gotcha.......

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Wright Brothers] #7723785
11/21/22 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
Sick the divorce lawyer on him, they like big bucks.

Yea,,her divorce lawyer,,not his.Hahahaaa


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723792
11/21/22 09:20 PM
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Catch22,
Most folks can record good quality video with their cell phones.

I can only speak to Georgia DNR about left or right trending. Here the agency's LE is a separate division and there is no left leaning whatsoever by DNR LE officers. All I know are so conservative they could've spoke at the Republican National Convention.

The wildlife resources division of Ga DNR includes biologists and many of the younger & newer ones are so far left that they would make Biden look conservative.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7723795
11/21/22 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Catch22,
Most folks can record good quality video with their cell phones.

I can only speak to Georgia DNR about left or right trending. Here the agency's LE is a separate division and there is no left leaning whatsoever by DNR LE officers. All I know are so conservative they could've spoke at the Republican National Convention.

The wildlife resources division of Ga DNR includes biologists and many of the younger & newer ones are so far left that they would make Biden look conservative.

I appreciate that.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723798
11/21/22 09:29 PM
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I know video evidence got me out of a situation when I showed up to court and showed the judge my interaction. I got the GW on video talking about he knew if he checked me enough heíd find somethingÖ4 days in a row. Wonít go into details but he called me at my house about 2 hours after checking me and told me to come back to where we were hunting because he found something and I was getting a ticket. I had already videoed day #2 and 3 and videoed day 4 and again when I went back to see what he found. Never got checked by him or any other GW again.

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