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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723806
11/21/22 09:34 PM
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I'm fairly amused at the number of people who deliberately paint targets on their backs; and then complain that they are targets...

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: white marlin] #7723809
11/21/22 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I'm fairly amused at the number of people who deliberately paint targets on their backs; and then complain that they are targets...

What lol???


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723810
11/21/22 09:41 PM
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Because they call the Leo as stated before don’t involve them and if they get involved shut up tell them you plea th 5 and ask for your attorney. The moment you open your lips they will use any thing against you and will lie in the process to get what they want . Treat them like some one you would trust for anything.

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: white marlin] #7723812
11/21/22 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I'm fairly amused at the number of people who deliberately paint targets on their backs; and then complain that they are targets...

Till its YOUR turn in the barrel.And don't think it cant happen no matter how honest and law abiding you are.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Wanna Be] #7723815
11/21/22 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I know video evidence got me out of a situation when I showed up to court and showed the judge my interaction. I got the GW on video talking about he knew if he checked me enough he’d find something…4 days in a row. Won’t go into details but he called me at my house about 2 hours after checking me and told me to come back to where we were hunting because he found something and I was getting a ticket. I had already videoed day #2 and 3 and videoed day 4 and again when I went back to see what he found. Never got checked by him or any other GW again.

GA DNR LE officers love having body cameras. It shows the true interactions with the public. I am familiar with several incidents where folks made a complaint on an officer but wanted it rescinded when they learned there was a video. So, it works both ways.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: upstateNY] #7723816
11/21/22 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by white marlin
I'm fairly amused at the number of people who deliberately paint targets on their backs; and then complain that they are targets...

Till its YOUR turn in the barrel.And don't think it cant happen no matter how honest and law abiding you are.


I can appreciate what you're saying...and I DO think there is some truth there.

but there are a LOT of guys out there who "shade" things to get an edge, and aren't real shy about talking about their "prowess"....

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723828
11/21/22 10:02 PM
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Bring all your buddies and kill as many as you legally can until there's nothing left for the neighbors grin


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723857
11/21/22 10:28 PM
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Plead the fifth then here in Wi you will hear, you are going to be cited for "obstruction of justice". There are good wardens but not so good also.

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723862
11/21/22 10:32 PM
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Gosh darn it i didn't pop enough corn!

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: AntiGov] #7723870
11/21/22 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Bring all your buddies and kill as many as you legally can until there's nothing left for the neighbors grin



I have been thinking about that. But it's 2.5 hrs away from me. And these people don't have values. They will shoot from a road and claim deer they didn't kill. They don't care who killed it as long as they can claim the rack.

I never understood the obsession over antler. Not really any value in them to me. Sure thay are nice for a trophy to keep. But the hunt and being out is the trophy. I have let deer larger than I have ever killed walk and not bothered to attempt to shoot him at 40 yard when my daughter didn't feel comfortable enough to make the shot with the x bow. She asked me if I could make it and I told her yes. She tried to hand me the x bow and told me to shoot it. I declined. She asked why and I told her if I shoot it it won't be here tomorrow for you to get a chance at and I would rather her kill it. Folks get plumb silly over some bone growing out of a deers head.

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723924
11/22/22 12:07 AM
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So why didn't your cousin ask the adjacent landowners permission to retrieve an animal before the season started? If he did and they said NO, then no is no. A CO isn't going to change that.

This is your cousins issue, why are you upset? There appears to be some history between the two individuals by your account. But, anything being said here is all here say. By admission ... no documented evidence. Sometimes it's better to something's go. Life is way to short, change the things you have the power to change and not worry or get upset about things you can't. This is one of those you can't change!

Teach your boys right from wrong, to always be the best they can be, and that not everything in this world works the way we all would like it to.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723944
11/22/22 01:14 AM
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He should have reported the game warden, the guy in the truck for poaching through the state hotline. He can also file an inspector general complaint with the state about this game warden. He can write his reps about the game warden. He can contact the DNR executive office and complain about this game warden. Goodluck man, how you guys get it fixed.

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7723961
11/22/22 04:30 AM
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I feel like I just watched a reality show in Spanish where I had to read the conversation. lol

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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7724048
11/22/22 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I feel like I just watched a reality show in Spanish where I had to read the conversation. lol

grin

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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7724120
11/22/22 09:21 AM
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I had a neighbor in upstate ny who was a dep.police. He was a the biggest poacher around.I can tell lots of stories but wont get into it here.Its very hard to go against a guy with a badge and a gun. Complaints were made about him and next thing you know any cars that visited my home or I did business with were getting pulled over and harassed by other officers. They probably didn't know anything about our relationship but listen ed to what this guy had to.say but it was a nightmare for years.

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7724196
11/22/22 11:41 AM
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I have never had an interaction with a police officer that left a bad taste in my mouth. Game wardens not so much.


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7724210
11/22/22 12:07 PM
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Sat on a jury on a wildlife case.

You'll have better luck bucking a murder rap than you will a wildlife one. The burden of proof for wildlife enforcement is pathetic... Basically if the warden says he saw it happen, it's gospel. And there are all manner of incentives for them to abuse the system.

And I'm not lumping all CO's/GW's together... The good ones would still be good even if they had the same burden of proof as other branches of LE. But it might help cut the crap that comes from the corrupt ones.

People shouldn't violate game laws... But we shouldn't just chuck our rights out the window to protect a deer or pheasant.

Mike


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Mike in A-town] #7724322
11/22/22 03:58 PM
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One of my degrees is in Criminal Justice and I also attended a six-month law enforcement academy that culminated in a career as field Game Warden for thirty-one years and ten months. I'm surprised and amazed to learn that I didn't have to follow the same rules of evidence as other LEO's. I guess all that training was wrong and I shouldn't have let it hamstring me while wearing the badge. I guess I missed the boat on being corrupt and a poacher as well.
Being a Game Warden is unique in the law enforcement world. You are dealing with folks who are recreating and sometimes you are the kill joy. That can harbor resentment and venting on the web or in the coffee shop. Complaints are part of the job. Usually, it's a way to get back at the officer. In limited circumstances it's legit. Not everyone acts the way we would prefer at all times. If I held grudges against people that caused me grief by pulling me away from days off, family gatherings, a warm bed or my kid's sporting events, I would have had a heart attack already.
The drama on here is worthy of a soap opera award at times.

Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: Providence Farm] #7724336
11/22/22 04:15 PM
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I still Say it all starts with anatomy and accuracy...


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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer [Re: 330-Trapper] #7724343
11/22/22 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I still Say it all starts with anatomy and accuracy...



Yep , put them down on your own land and avoid all the unnecessary drama from jealous neighbors


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