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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780531
01/23/23 06:09 PM
01/23/23 06:09 PM
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It's not over. There is more to come. The insurance claims of every major insurance provider has skyrocketed and the death stats from the insurance companies are astounding, but the media won talk to you about it because it doesn't fit the narrative.

This is how you soften up the population, and create learned helplessness, then leading to a form of trauma based mind control. Once a population is under these types of psychological controls they are much easier controlled, and will do whatever they're told. Then they'll collapse the economy, start world war 3, and send in a foreign government to clean up our guns. Then they will fully castrate this once great nation, and sell us to the highest bidder.


Matthew 7:6 KJV
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
-OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780602
01/23/23 07:41 PM
01/23/23 07:41 PM
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If that happens Ken I am taking some with me


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7780611
01/23/23 07:52 PM
01/23/23 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I donít believe this thing is an absolute, which makes it impossible to pick a winner. lol

Canít both sides be winners?

Here is a micro picture, my wife and two kids are vaxed and neither has contracted Covid. Myself and two other kids are not vaxed, we all contracted Covid but experienced mild symptoms. My Dad is vaxed, my mom isnít, neither has contracted Covid to date. He is 86, she is 80.

It appears that there are many factors that go into efficacy of vaccines that time did not permit for perfected trials. If you did what is right for you and it has panned out, be relieved. If not, take what there is to learn from it and govern yourselves accordingly in the future.



All of my immediate family is unvaxxed. All except for me and Pete have had COVID, some of them multiple times. ALL are very high risk. None have had symptoms any worse than a cold. My dad caught it the first time a couple weeks after lung surgery. My mom has COPD and a host of other health issues. My Stepdad has COPD and sarcoidosis of the lungs. My grandmother is in her upper 80s. And they were all fine. My dad's brother got jabbed and has been in and out of the hospital constantly for all sorts of issues ever since.

My mom and stepdad currently have Covid again but so far so good.


~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780619
01/23/23 08:04 PM
01/23/23 08:04 PM
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Iowa
~ADC~ Offline
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My opinion is... No one is right or wrong. Covid effects people differently based on many things same as the shot does. Pick your poison and leave everyone else alone. It's the same as politics and religion, you're not changing anyone's mind, just talking to hear yourself talk.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780632
01/23/23 08:18 PM
01/23/23 08:18 PM
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The problem was the mandateís

Forcing folks too get vaccinated for work/travel/enter buildings/attend events etc

Young people, healthy people where never at risk

They knew this early on. Very early

But they still pushed the vaccine. They are still pushing,,,,

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: ~ADC~] #7780636
01/23/23 08:22 PM
01/23/23 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
TLDR - but I have 5 friends that were killed by covid. I wish they had tried the shot.


I don't think your experience is average. Of the hundreds of people I know I only know of one personally that died of Covid. The guy that ran the liquor store.


~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: yotetrapper30] #7780642
01/23/23 08:27 PM
01/23/23 08:27 PM
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Iowa
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
TLDR - but I have 5 friends that were killed by covid. I wish they had tried the shot.


I don't think your experience is average. Of the hundreds of people I know I only know of one personally that died of Covid. The guy that ran the liquor store.


3 of the 5 lived less than two city blocks apart. 2 of the 5 were my age or younger. Different strain of the virus maybe?

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: spjones] #7780647
01/23/23 08:32 PM
01/23/23 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
The problem was the mandateís

Forcing folks too get vaccinated for work/travel/enter buildings/attend events etc

Young people, healthy people where never at risk

They knew this early on. Very early

But they still pushed the vaccine. They are still pushing,,,,



I bet there is almost zero people on trapperman that agree with the mandates, and if there are any, no one will change their minds.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780656
01/23/23 08:39 PM
01/23/23 08:39 PM
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I got vaxed,travelled to infested cities and hobnobbed all over where people were infested with covid-never got sick.
Vax works great.

Last edited by Boco; 01/23/23 08:40 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Boco] #7780657
01/23/23 08:42 PM
01/23/23 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I got vaxed,travelled to infested cities and hobnobbed all over where people were infested with covid-never got sick.
Vax works great.

I think the same could be said for folks that didn't get the shots. Or only got some of them.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780659
01/23/23 08:45 PM
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Thatís nice

Lots of folks never got vaccinated and never died

Many folks that werenít at risk but got vaccinated now having heart issues etc


Last edited by spjones; 01/23/23 08:46 PM.
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: trapdog1] #7780661
01/23/23 08:47 PM
01/23/23 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Boco
I got vaxed,travelled to infested cities and hobnobbed all over where people were infested with covid-never got sick.
Vax works great.

I think the same could be said for folks that didn't get the shots. Or only got some of them.


Yep. Every other day at work for awhile one of my coworkers caught it. I was surrounded by hundreds of customers a day during the height of it.

Not getting vaxxed worked great too.


~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780663
01/23/23 08:52 PM
01/23/23 08:52 PM
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I don't know a single person that hasn't gotten covid at least once. Non down for more then a week or two. I do however know multiple with severe side effects from the vaccine. Just my observations

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780667
01/23/23 08:55 PM
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I don't think I've had it. Had a cold a couple times that could have been covid I guess, but never tested for it.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780674
01/23/23 09:14 PM
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I'm reading a book now called: The Real Anthony Fauci. It was written by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. It is very eye-opening to say the least.


Life Member: ITA, IBA & NRA. Member of FTA & NTA
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: AntiGov] #7780675
01/23/23 09:17 PM
01/23/23 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Some of us tried to warn others .......but it's an uphill battle , fighting against a very powerful and relentless brain washing campaign .


A lot of good info got axed .........deemed as " fake news "


This ^^ without a doubt. Censorship was/is a huge problem. Its all water under the bridge now, but its not hard to discern the truth, if you really want to look for for it. The companies have admitted that the vaccines dont stop people from getting it. Thats not even debatable now. The data proves it. Two new studies actually show that people who have taken two or three jabs are more likely to get covid.

The elephant in the room is that the unvaxxed aren't dying.

All of this over a virus that has a 98.7% survival rate across the board. Out of everything they did, censoring ivermectin and HQC as treatments was the worst. People died because of it.


do unto others as you would have them do unto you

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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Boco] #7780683
01/23/23 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I got vaxed,travelled to infested cities and hobnobbed all over where people were infested with covid-never got sick.
Vax works great.



Have you talked to our mutual friend lately ?? The 3rd jab almost killed him. He has his trapline for sale now.

Ken Smith is right about myocarditis. Its not a good diagnoses especially for young folks. Lifespan wont be normal thats for sure.

BTW I have traveled all over the USA twice now, not vaxxed and never had an issue.

Last edited by yukon254; 01/23/23 09:38 PM.

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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: danny clifton] #7780685
01/23/23 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If that happens Ken I am taking some with me

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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: yukon254] #7780689
01/23/23 09:42 PM
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Hey Yukon how did you get into the US without a Vax pass?

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7780692
01/23/23 09:52 PM
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I never got a shot and am healthy. Even had the vid with minimal problems. Didn't feel sick enough to stop working, but was forced to take a two week vacation, sure got a lot done around the farm though.
Two older brothers got the shot and boosters.
One is dead at 58, died shortly after the booster. I talked to him after he got the booster shot and he said something was off and he didn't feel good, he was dead a couple days later.
Other brother was one of the healthiest 60 year old men I have known, athletic type and never sick. He has been sickly the past two years and is now on week 2 of hiding in his motel room with the covid. Said he is bad sick and I never seen him get down like this before the past couple of years.
I will never be getting the shot or encouraging anyone else to do so.

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