Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Will throw this out for consideration, as 99% of the world is not aware they exist......the Liberator.. https://rocketheater.com/Will burn real wood in addition to pellets, and they burn, clean, hot (2,000F+) and fast. Best use is take stove as shown, then run exhaust threw a secondary storage structure, like a brick cube about the size of a washing machine, then up and out normal vent stack. Bricks absorb the surplus heat and cool down the exhaust even more. Bricks then radiate heat into room all day.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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There is no way a stove mfg can provide an accurate estimate of the number of sq ft a stove can heat. They don't know anything about your heat load, which is determined by factors such as outside temps, insulation, windows, ceiling height, etc. Instead, look at heat output in Btu's and compare it with your current system. Then consider that the stove output is probably at max burn rate and you won't have it burning at that rate much of the time.
Cast iron stoves are generally better than plate steel because the cast iron absorbs heat and then gives it off providing a more even heat to the house. Soapstone stoves are even better in that regard but also more expensive. The only downside is that both take longer to heat up than a steel stove.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Not sure the part of Illinois you live but in west central you are close to a dealer that has been in the business for a long time. They are located in West Point Iowa. Wood Stoves
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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I recommend calling your insurance company and see if they will still cover you if you have a stove installed. Some do, some don't. The ones that do cover wood stoves usually require the stove and chimney be installed by professional and stove has a UL listing.
That said, you can’t beat wood heat! Good point. Your insurance company will require it inspected. For me it was inspected by the city, then signed off by the insurance company. My rates went up $20 a year doing it that way. Don't do that and have a fire and that's the insurance company's way out from paying you a dime.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Have you considered a wood pellet stove instead? Your still buying fuel of sorts to heat your house. Yes you have other investments with a standard wood stove but I would rather be out in the woods cutting wood than standing in line at the big box store buying pellets.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Have you considered a wood pellet stove instead? My son has one and not really impressed with it. They like it and works good for them but a wood stove would be more for me. I had a wood stove in a house I used to have and loved everything about it even the cutting and splitting of wood I always enjoyed.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Fisher wood stoves are no longer made but if you can find one, they are a good stove. Probably not uL rated.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Fisher wood stoves are no longer made but if you can find one, they are a good stove. Probably not uL rated. That explains why I can’t find anything other than used ones lol. Vermont castings has a model aspen C3 that’s also caught my attention.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Ever consider an outdoor boiler wood stove? Insurance wouldn't/shouldn't be as big of concern and all the mess is outside.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Ever consider an outdoor boiler wood stove? Insurance wouldn't/shouldn't be as big of concern and all the mess is outside. X2 I thought about looking for a small outside one but I don't know if they make small ones
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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my house is old1900 and about 1300sq feet with up stairs
you need one big enough that you can get some wood in the fire box you can build a smaller fire , let it burn out , choke down the air
on 30 below nights I have a hard time keeping up with the fire have to load it every 2 hours on 40 degree days I might have a fire in the morning and be good most of the day have another fire at night
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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BUT the size of the stove doesn't matter. The size of the fire inside it matters. Run a small fire. That's all I do This is true with regard to the heat generated, but not the efficiency of the burn or the cresote generated or the pollutants emitted. Stoves are designed for a certain size fire that will give the heat needed while allowing the stove temp to get high enough to burn gasses emitted from the wood that would otherwise go up the chimney, deposit cresote as they cool, and escape as smoke. Burning those gasses also generates additional heat so you use less wood. With a large catalytic combustor stove and a small fire you might never reach the temp needed to swap the flue gas path through the combustor.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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Ever consider an outdoor boiler wood stove? Insurance wouldn't/shouldn't be as big of concern and all the mess is outside. X2 I thought about looking for a small outside one but I don't know if they make small ones as long as my stove was professionally installed on the main floor of the house , no change in my insurance , I called my agent before purchasing the stove.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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I know this is not what you are talking about but if your goal is heat this may help? I have a furnace I got from Tractor Supply in East Peoria. I have had it for 15 years and in 2 houses. It made my 820 sf house about 90 degrees and we had to open the windows - now I'm in a 1600 sf house and looking at a bigger one so I don't have to run it so hot all the time. It says Hot Blast on the front and it's a furnace- not a stove so it is attached to our forced air ducts. I put 30'' long pieces in it, It's in our basement. Insurance was fine with it because I also have a regular furnace so this is not the primary heat for the house - that's how they looked at it. We depend on this until it gets very cold and then if needed we supplement with the regular furnace.
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Re: Wood stove for smaller home
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When you decide on a stove, be sure to pay attention to the minimum Flue height recommendations,according to your Altitude. I noticed that while looking through manual for the Lopi. Says 15’ minimum and 33’ maximum from stove to top of chimney.
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