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Wood stove for smaller home #7786465
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We are looking at getting a wood stove for our home. Our home is roughly a 1000 square feet on the main floor and just single story. Searching on internet for a small wood stove brings up a lot of really small stoves but these are for tiny homes or very small spaces. One stove I have my eyes on is a Lopi answer nexgen Fyre. This stove can be kept closer to the wall and is about 16” in depth. Anyone have experience with this stove or a similar sized stove?

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Be careful when buying a stove that's rated for a certain square footage. Most of them are so small you need to feed it toothpicks....and often. My woodstove is way over rated for my house, BUT the firebox is big enough to put normal sized logs in. I just don't fill it up, but I can if I want extended burn time. Burn time is regulated (mostly) with the airflow that you adjust.

To some degree, you get what you pay for in the woodstoves. If I remember right, the 3 sides of mine can be within an inch or two of the wall.

I have both the Quadrafire 4300 steptop (in the house) and the Drolett Austrial in the shop. They make a smaller Quadrafire unit as well. Probably lots of great models out there, though.

You won't regret a woodstove. I won't own a house without one again.

Re: Wood stove for smaller home [Re: DRF] #7786489
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I recommend calling your insurance company and see if they will still cover you if you have a stove installed. Some do, some don't. The ones that do cover wood stoves usually require the stove and chimney be installed by professional and stove has a UL listing.

That said, you can’t beat wood heat!

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Before you bring it inside do the first couple burns outdoors to burn off the chemicals. Personally ide go bigger than 16" Firebox but I don't know your size limitations

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Will throw this out for consideration, as 99% of the world is not aware they exist......the Liberator..

https://rocketheater.com/

Will burn real wood in addition to pellets, and they burn, clean, hot (2,000F+) and fast. Best use is take stove as shown, then run exhaust threw a secondary storage structure, like a brick cube about the size of a washing machine, then up and out normal vent stack. Bricks absorb the surplus heat and cool down the exhaust even more. Bricks then radiate heat into room all day.

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Get Yourself a baby bear or mamma bear fisher wood stove.
Tried 2 other brands and they didn’t come close.



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There is no way a stove mfg can provide an accurate estimate of the number of sq ft a stove can heat. They don't know anything about your heat load, which is determined by factors such as outside temps, insulation, windows, ceiling height, etc. Instead, look at heat output in Btu's and compare it with your current system. Then consider that the stove output is probably at max burn rate and you won't have it burning at that rate much of the time.

Cast iron stoves are generally better than plate steel because the cast iron absorbs heat and then gives it off providing a more even heat to the house. Soapstone stoves are even better in that regard but also more expensive. The only downside is that both take longer to heat up than a steel stove.

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The Lopi stove I mentioned in my first post I just called about and is 2600 dollars.

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Not sure the part of Illinois you live but in west central you are close to a dealer that has been in the business for a long time. They are located in West Point Iowa. Wood Stoves


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Re: Wood stove for smaller home [Re: Trapset] #7786676
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Originally Posted by Trapset
I recommend calling your insurance company and see if they will still cover you if you have a stove installed. Some do, some don't. The ones that do cover wood stoves usually require the stove and chimney be installed by professional and stove has a UL listing.

That said, you can’t beat wood heat!


Good point. Your insurance company will require it inspected. For me it was inspected by the city, then signed off by the insurance company. My rates went up $20 a year doing it that way. Don't do that and have a fire and that's the insurance company's way out from paying you a dime.

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Don’t get me started on insurance companies lol. Thanks for the info everyone. I will check that place out drifter, I’m from Erie. I looked up the baby bear models and said made by fisher but couldn’t find a direct website to them.

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Have you considered a wood pellet stove instead?

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Re: Wood stove for smaller home [Re: Kevin Colpetzer] #7786762
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Originally Posted by Kevin Colpetzer
Have you considered a wood pellet stove instead?

Your still buying fuel of sorts to heat your house. Yes you have other investments with a standard wood stove but I would rather be out in the woods cutting wood than standing in line at the big box store buying pellets.


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Originally Posted by Kevin Colpetzer
Have you considered a wood pellet stove instead?

My son has one and not really impressed with it. They like it and works good for them but a wood stove would be more for me. I had a wood stove in a house I used to have and loved everything about it even the cutting and splitting of wood I always enjoyed.

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Fisher wood stoves are no longer made but if you can find one, they are a good stove.
Probably not uL rated.

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Originally Posted by newfox1
Fisher wood stoves are no longer made but if you can find one, they are a good stove.
Probably not uL rated.

That explains why I can’t find anything other than used ones lol. Vermont castings has a model aspen C3 that’s also caught my attention.

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I have a 1200 square foot house and I run a big napoleon stove. The house is brand new this last year and it's ICF so very efficient. The stove will cook you out of it.
BUT the size of the stove doesn't matter. The size of the fire inside it matters. Run a small fire. That's all I do

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rusty the guy that built that house must really suck. shoulda made it alot more drafty. icf is a rip off 2x4 walls with r10 paper backed insulation is the way to go. lol

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Yeah. Not sure if i buy the ICF crap either.
The building inspector showed me he put all the trusses on backwards too. That made me upset.

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Ever consider an outdoor boiler wood stove? Insurance wouldn't/shouldn't be as big of concern and all the mess is outside.


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Would definitely get an outside boiler but the town won’t allow them

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Originally Posted by 20scout
Ever consider an outdoor boiler wood stove? Insurance wouldn't/shouldn't be as big of concern and all the mess is outside.

X2

I thought about looking for a small outside one but I don't know if they make small ones

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Quadra fire 2100

my house is old1900 and about 1300sq feet with up stairs

you need one big enough that you can get some wood in the fire box
you can build a smaller fire , let it burn out , choke down the air

on 30 below nights I have a hard time keeping up with the fire have to load it every 2 hours
on 40 degree days I might have a fire in the morning and be good most of the day have another fire at night


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BUT the size of the stove doesn't matter. The size of the fire inside it matters. Run a small fire. That's all I do


This is true with regard to the heat generated, but not the efficiency of the burn or the cresote generated or the pollutants emitted. Stoves are designed for a certain size fire that will give the heat needed while allowing the stove temp to get high enough to burn gasses emitted from the wood that would otherwise go up the chimney, deposit cresote as they cool, and escape as smoke. Burning those gasses also generates additional heat so you use less wood. With a large catalytic combustor stove and a small fire you might never reach the temp needed to swap the flue gas path through the combustor.

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Originally Posted by AJE
Originally Posted by 20scout
Ever consider an outdoor boiler wood stove? Insurance wouldn't/shouldn't be as big of concern and all the mess is outside.

X2

I thought about looking for a small outside one but I don't know if they make small ones


as long as my stove was professionally installed on the main floor of the house , no change in my insurance , I called my agent before purchasing the stove.


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I know this is not what you are talking about but if your goal is heat this may help? I have a furnace I got from Tractor Supply in East Peoria. I have had it for 15 years and in 2 houses. It made my 820 sf house about 90 degrees and we had to open the windows - now I'm in a 1600 sf house and looking at a bigger one so I don't have to run it so hot all the time. It says Hot Blast on the front and it's a furnace- not a stove so it is attached to our forced air ducts. I put 30'' long pieces in it, It's in our basement. Insurance was fine with it because I also have a regular furnace so this is not the primary heat for the house - that's how they looked at it. We depend on this until it gets very cold and then if needed we supplement with the regular furnace.


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When you decide on a stove, be sure to pay attention to the minimum Flue height recommendations,according to your Altitude.

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Originally Posted by YamaCat
When you decide on a stove, be sure to pay attention to the minimum Flue height recommendations,according to your Altitude.

I noticed that while looking through manual for the Lopi. Says 15’ minimum and 33’ maximum from stove to top of chimney.

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I have a hip roof and my chimney will be coming out right where the one on the left side is with the line through it

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Larry I have looked at furnaces before and do have room in basement but wanting just a regular wood stove for upstairs. If it gets a little warm I don’t mind opening the windows for a bit lol. Still cheaper than our electric/gas bill we get for this small house. Will be calling insurance soon and talk with them… this can always get me worked up. Even worse it seems with age lol

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A wood stove in the main area of a home cares not at all whether or not your electricity is working. Not so for any of the wood burning furnaces. The stove is more mess in the house but you don't have to worry about your pipes freezing when power is out for a week. To me as a homeowner, there is nothing worse than being driven out of your own home due to no electricity.

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Edp mine does just fine. Im not saying light a candle in it.

Pull out the damper it'll get hot enough. Gets too hot turn it down lol. Clean the chimney once a year. Any stove will work. Wouldn't recommend an outdoor boiler if you want to conserve wood though. You loose way to much energy converting wood to heat then heating water with it, then pumping it into your house. I know a couple guys that have them and the amount of wood they burn is stupid

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Rusty, what you have is what you have and it works for you. The OP has the opportunity to "right size" his stove and optimize the outcome. I'm just suggesting he take advantage of that opportunity.

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