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Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief #7787399 01/31/23 10:37 AM 01/31/23 10:37 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,686 Illinois foxkidd44 OP trapper
foxkidd44 OP trapper Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,686 Illinois	Ok gang,,, I think I’m out of options but thought I’d run this by y’all to see if there is something else I can try. I have cervical stenosis which causes my muscles to get very stiff and sore. Right now, the only fraction of relief I can get is from my tens unit,,, it does feel good, but I can’t leave it running constantly and it doesn’t break up the stiffness. Ice and stretching are the only other things I have. I can’t take any anti inflammatory meds because I was put on blood thinners because of blood clots in my lungs,, I can’t go to massage therapist because they are afraid of breaking the blood clots loose,,, I can’t do acupuncture or dry needling either because of the possibility of micro bleeding into my muscles. I’ve tried lidocaine and tiger balm which does nothing,,, I can’t use muscle rubs that contain anti inflammatory meds like voltarin… I was getting steroid shots up until I got the blood clots,,, I can’t have the shots now because it could cause a hematoma in my spinal cord which could paralyze me. I can’t take muscle relaxers either because they don’t mix well with pain killers. I can’t take magnesium supplements because they interfere with blood thinners…. Is there something else I could try??? Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787401 01/31/23 10:39 AM 01/31/23 10:39 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,412 east central WI K k snow trapper
k snow trapper K Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,412 east central WI	Would ice baths work? I use them after heavy weightlifting sessions and competitions. It really helps my recovery and almost eliminates muscle soreness.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: k snow] #7787413 01/31/23 10:56 AM 01/31/23 10:56 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,686 Illinois foxkidd44 OP trapper
foxkidd44 OP trapper Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,686 Illinois	Originally Posted by k snow Would ice baths work? I use them after heavy weightlifting sessions and competitions. It really helps my recovery and almost eliminates muscle soreness. I do use ice packs, but it doesn’t seem to help get the inflammation and stiffness out.. but it does feel good when it’s on there Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787431 01/31/23 11:16 AM 01/31/23 11:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,412 east central WI K k snow trapper
k snow trapper K Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,412 east central WI	Originally Posted by foxkidd44 Originally Posted by k snow Would ice baths work? I use them after heavy weightlifting sessions and competitions. It really helps my recovery and almost eliminates muscle soreness. I do use ice packs, but it doesn’t seem to help get the inflammation and stiffness out.. but it does feel good when it’s on there Have you tried a complete ice BATH? Fill up the tub, dump in ice, get the water down to 35 to 40 degrees, immerse your whole body for 3-5 minutes.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787444 01/31/23 11:30 AM 01/31/23 11:30 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,718 MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes T Trapper7 trapper
Trapper7 trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,718 MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes	Try Lidocaine roll on. You can get it in any drug store. I use it for sore muscles and stiffness. The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787479 01/31/23 12:17 PM 01/31/23 12:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,221 Alaska and Washington State W waggler trapper
waggler trapper W Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,221 Alaska and Washington State	Everyone is talking about ice baths, why not try something more comfortable like a hot tub? "My life is better than your vacation"

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787498 01/31/23 12:37 PM 01/31/23 12:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,928 NY Canvasback2 trapper
Canvasback2 trapper Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,928 NY	Which color of the Tiger Balm did you use ? Some are better than others.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: Canvasback2] #7787505 01/31/23 12:48 PM 01/31/23 12:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,686 Illinois foxkidd44 OP trapper
foxkidd44 OP trapper Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,686 Illinois	Originally Posted by Canvasback2 Which color of the Tiger Balm did you use ? Some are better than others. It says hydrogel patch on the box Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787506 01/31/23 12:50 PM 01/31/23 12:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,584 MN D Donnersurvivor trapper
Donnersurvivor trapper D Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,584 MN	Yoga. Yoga is basically stretching, it works and works well for me when I'm sore.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787512 01/31/23 01:03 PM 01/31/23 01:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,882 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,882 williamsburg ks	I see your in IL. Some people claim weed helps with pain. What have you got to lose? Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787558 01/31/23 01:49 PM 01/31/23 01:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,666 lewis county,new york N newfox1 trapper
newfox1 trapper N Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,666 lewis county,new york	A hot bath will help with the soreness but ice is better for inflammation.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787576 01/31/23 02:15 PM 01/31/23 02:15 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,011 ohio T tomahawker trapper
tomahawker trapper T Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,011 ohio	Stretching will go a long way. Focus on hips and back. Those two can lock up a whole body. You’ll have to experiment to see what works. One specific tip is get a golf ball or baseball and roll under your foot, apply pressure where you find you need it. Crazy but it works in ways that will surprise. Then there’s the old stand by of having a kid walk on your back…or woman but she better be a spinner. www.tomahawkoutdoors.com

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787582 01/31/23 02:24 PM 01/31/23 02:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,221 WISCONSIN W Wild_WI trapper
Wild_WI trapper W Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,221 WISCONSIN	I'll take a picture of this stuff my wife bought me, my back is shot after the Army. This is CBD cream no drugs in it, I was skeptical but it works well for me pretty instant relief lasts a few hours. Sort of feels like icy hot but better results

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787589 01/31/23 02:36 PM 01/31/23 02:36 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,011 ohio T tomahawker trapper
tomahawker trapper T Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,011 ohio	Also, prolly a whole new thread but…I don’t agree with icing inflammation, either from injury or over use. All the ice does is constrict your blood vessels. Which while providing a temporary relief, is literally constricting that which will ultimately do the healing…life giving blood. I feel the same way about fevers. A fever is your bodies natural response to a pathogen, these pathogens require certain conditions. Your body knows this and raises the temperature to kill said pathogen. Yet we spend time and money to reduce our fevers, which are really there to aid us. Same with a sprained ankle, your body knows this is an injury and floods the area with all that’s required to heal it. Yet we apply ice which only restricts the blood. Completely understand there are some other things to consider but as a whole we can be our own worst enemies. Not too awful long ago physicians were convinced the way to help a patient was to let some blood out. www.tomahawkoutdoors.com

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787591 01/31/23 02:46 PM 01/31/23 02:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,647 49th State M mad_mike trapper
mad_mike trapper M Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,647 49th State	Yoga.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787602 01/31/23 03:15 PM 01/31/23 03:15 PM
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,293 PA L lumberjack391 trapper
lumberjack391 trapper L Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,293 PA	Originally Posted by foxkidd44 Ok gang,,, I think I’m out of options but thought I’d run this by y’all to see if there is something else I can try. I have cervical stenosis which causes my muscles to get very stiff and sore. Right now, the only fraction of relief I can get is from my tens unit,,, it does feel good, but I can’t leave it running constantly and it doesn’t break up the stiffness. Ice and stretching are the only other things I have. I can’t take any anti inflammatory meds because I was put on blood thinners because of blood clots in my lungs,, I can’t go to massage therapist because they are afraid of breaking the blood clots loose,,, I can’t do acupuncture or dry needling either because of the possibility of micro bleeding into my muscles. I’ve tried lidocaine and tiger balm which does nothing,,, I can’t use muscle rubs that contain anti inflammatory meds like voltarin… I was getting steroid shots up until I got the blood clots,,, I can’t have the shots now because it could cause a hematoma in my spinal cord which could paralyze me. I can’t take muscle relaxers either because they don’t mix well with pain killers. I can’t take magnesium supplements because they interfere with blood thinners…. Is there something else I could try??? Holy smokes talk about side effects....Hypnotism maybe? Last edited by lumberjack391; 01/31/23 03:16 PM.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787611 01/31/23 03:39 PM 01/31/23 03:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,180 Piney va. soon be 19 cotton trapper
cotton trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,180 Piney va. soon be 19	Keep moving Doc's will tell you to use ice, pt folks tell me to use heat. Ice will make you tighten up. John 3/16 ifin your gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough VTA life member

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787650 01/31/23 04:30 PM 01/31/23 04:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 21,074 North East Kansas Marty trapper
Marty trapper Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 21,074 North East Kansas	try foam rolling. E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787682 01/31/23 05:09 PM 01/31/23 05:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 534 SW Pa KKS trapper
KKS trapper Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 534 SW Pa	I use horse liniment. We had it in the locker room when I played college ball. Have so much metal holding me together I have to carry a card.

Re: Stiff muscles, need ideas for relief [Re: foxkidd44] #7787683 01/31/23 05:11 PM 01/31/23 05:11 PM
M Mark June Unregistered
Mark June Unregistered M	John, I encourage you to read my post of Equine-Equiscope therapy. Your post was the reason behind me posting it.

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