Beaver - HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
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07/11/08 04:01 PM
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CharlesKS
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OK, beaver pros,
my boss says he dont believe a beaver will use a stick to fire off traps, as i was telling him they do, ive had it happen
pics would be awesome.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: CharlesKS]
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07/11/08 04:06 PM
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I think your boss is correct. since the beaver is carring the stick in its mouth and the is the end that goes through the trap fist, then tripping the trap is a result of transporting the stick. An act of nature on a deliberate act.
AKA: Rusty Shackleford
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: j lord]
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your not helping.
i mean the last beaver left, and you know you pinched one and it got away.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: CharlesKS]
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I'm no pro like some on here but they do. I reall don't know if it is intensional or not. Think it is mostly that trappers disturd dams, runs ect and in the procces of repair they push sticks and debris into them?
Good question?
I'd really like to here from the Boss, J or some of the other fine beavermasters on here.
"Dad gum it" Larry C. RIP
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: j lord]
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07/11/08 04:08 PM
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It's only blind beavers that do that charles. lol
Beavers are builder's so it's normal for them to be hauling around sticks with them to repair a dam, eat, make bedding, etc. and accidentally fire off a trap with them.
I don't think they use them to find traps with though BUT I do think they use turtles as mine sweepers if you set any 330s out this time of year, lol.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Jtrapper]
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im not going to show my boss this post.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: CharlesKS]
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Think your giving animals more credit than they deserve in the mental capacity department Charles!
To date ive never seen any animal that knew a trap was a trap! Granted some beaver know a 330 is something dangerous, but I doubt they have a clue it's a trap.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Jtrapper]
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of course they dont know its a trap dingbat, but CAN they reccognize it, and sabatoge it in some way.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Jtrapper]
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well FCOL, hes gonna want to read this, i told him i was gonna ask a whole network of very accomplisehd beaver trappers, since, me, am not quite there yet, so
TYPE SOMETHING I CAN SHOW HIM TO SAVE SOME FACE!
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Jtrapper]
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I can see the WB's movie now. Buster the Beaver running around with sticks poking all them baaad ol twaps of Elmers. LOL Seriously, Beaver carry sticks, sticks are usually infront of the Beaver when carried, stick get to trap first. Charles I don't think Beaver have enough brain matter to knowingly, on purpose, stick a stick (pardon the pun) in a trap. I think your boss was using a play on words with you to probably win a bet or something. Is that what he did? LOL All of this is just my humble opinion.
"FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!"
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: CharlesKS]
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I can't say that I've every known a situation where a beaver threw a 330 with a stick on purpose. I have known them to throw 330s though. I watched one do it, not once, but twice. The beaver approached the submerged body grip and right when it got to the trap, it did a forward summersault and it hit the trap with it's tail. I would have thought that the beaver recognized that it was a trap when it got close and turned quickly and accidentally fired the trap..... except I reset the trap and watched the beaver do it a second time. This was about ten feet from where a ditch emptied into a pond. The beaver would swim around the mouth of the ditch until I got done setting and then I backed off.... then it would come in and do its trick. I had Backbreaker behind the trap and I reckon that beaver wanted to get to it. If I'd have not approached the trap immediately after it fired it, I don't know if it would have gone past the fired trap to get to the lure. I pulled that trap because I was sure it would have been a waste of time leaving it. A CDR at a fake castor mound where the ditch entered the pond took care of this beaver.
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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see...now where getting somewhere!
so, if a coyote can dig a trap when he knows its there, why does the beaver have to be so much less intellegent than the coyote?
dont tell me the coyotes are just smarter than beaver either!
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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so, basically, what your saying is im dead wrong, and a stick through the trap is not the beavers normal responce to avoiding a trap?
i really hate being wrong...dangit
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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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07/11/08 04:50 PM
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LOL LOL LOL This post is too funny.. JUST when you think you know.... You have no idea....
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