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Beaver - HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue #783899 07/11/08 04:01 PM 07/11/08 04:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	OK, beaver pros, my boss says he dont believe a beaver will use a stick to fire off traps, as i was telling him they do, ive had it happen pics would be awesome.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783902 07/11/08 04:05 PM 07/11/08 04:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN J j lord trapper
j lord trapper J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN	i cant say that the beaver knew what it was doing, like "i'm gonna show him and set this trap off with this stick", but i've had them set one off before. most likely they were carrying it and it set the trap off before the beavers head was in the 330. James Lord ------------- www.jlordvideos.com

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783905 07/11/08 04:06 PM 07/11/08 04:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,303 Western Michigan Animals Only trapper
Animals Only trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,303 Western Michigan	I think your boss is correct. since the beaver is carring the stick in its mouth and the is the end that goes through the trap fist, then tripping the trap is a result of transporting the stick. An act of nature on a deliberate act. AKA: Rusty Shackleford

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783907 07/11/08 04:07 PM 07/11/08 04:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	your not helping. i mean the last beaver left, and you know you pinched one and it got away.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783909 07/11/08 04:07 PM 07/11/08 04:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,144 Central Florida/ Formerly Ohio H Hoppytrapsfur trapper
Hoppytrapsfur trapper H Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,144 Central Florida/ Formerly Ohio	I'm no pro like some on here but they do. I reall don't know if it is intensional or not. Think it is mostly that trappers disturd dams, runs ect and in the procces of repair they push sticks and debris into them? Good question? I'd really like to here from the Boss, J or some of the other fine beavermasters on here. "Dad gum it" Larry C. RIP

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783910 07/11/08 04:08 PM 07/11/08 04:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	It's only blind beavers that do that charles. lol Beavers are builder's so it's normal for them to be hauling around sticks with them to repair a dam, eat, make bedding, etc. and accidentally fire off a trap with them. I don't think they use them to find traps with though BUT I do think they use turtles as mine sweepers if you set any 330s out this time of year, lol. Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #783911 07/11/08 04:10 PM 07/11/08 04:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	im not going to show my boss this post.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783915 07/11/08 04:14 PM 07/11/08 04:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	Think your giving animals more credit than they deserve in the mental capacity department Charles! To date ive never seen any animal that knew a trap was a trap! Granted some beaver know a 330 is something dangerous, but I doubt they have a clue it's a trap. Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #783916 07/11/08 04:15 PM 07/11/08 04:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	of course they dont know its a trap dingbat, but CAN they reccognize it, and sabatoge it in some way.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783919 07/11/08 04:16 PM 07/11/08 04:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	Ive had them build a dam on top of a snare before! Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #783923 07/11/08 04:18 PM 07/11/08 04:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	well FCOL, hes gonna want to read this, i told him i was gonna ask a whole network of very accomplisehd beaver trappers, since, me, am not quite there yet, so TYPE SOMETHING I CAN SHOW HIM TO SAVE SOME FACE!

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #783930 07/11/08 04:25 PM 07/11/08 04:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,543 Southwest Tennessee 45 yrs. warden trapper
warden trapper Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,543 Southwest Tennessee 45 yrs.	I can see the WB's movie now. Buster the Beaver running around with sticks poking all them baaad ol twaps of Elmers. $\:\)$ LOL Seriously, Beaver carry sticks, sticks are usually infront of the Beaver when carried, stick get to trap first. Charles I don't think Beaver have enough brain matter to knowingly, on purpose, stick a stick (pardon the pun) in a trap. I think your boss was using a play on words with you to probably win a bet or something. Is that what he did? LOL All of this is just my humble opinion. "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!"

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783932 07/11/08 04:30 PM 07/11/08 04:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina	I can't say that I've every known a situation where a beaver threw a 330 with a stick on purpose. I have known them to throw 330s though. I watched one do it, not once, but twice. The beaver approached the submerged body grip and right when it got to the trap, it did a forward summersault and it hit the trap with it's tail. I would have thought that the beaver recognized that it was a trap when it got close and turned quickly and accidentally fired the trap..... except I reset the trap and watched the beaver do it a second time. This was about ten feet from where a ditch emptied into a pond. The beaver would swim around the mouth of the ditch until I got done setting and then I backed off.... then it would come in and do its trick. I had Backbreaker behind the trap and I reckon that beaver wanted to get to it. If I'd have not approached the trap immediately after it fired it, I don't know if it would have gone past the fired trap to get to the lure. I pulled that trap because I was sure it would have been a waste of time leaving it. A CDR at a fake castor mound where the ditch entered the pond took care of this beaver.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783935 07/11/08 04:34 PM 07/11/08 04:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	see...now where getting somewhere! so, if a coyote can dig a trap when he knows its there, why does the beaver have to be so much less intellegent than the coyote? dont tell me the coyotes are just smarter than beaver either!

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783937 07/11/08 04:40 PM 07/11/08 04:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina	A coyote will dig a trap because the trap has an odor, the trap moved when it stepped on it, or it recalled something similar happening in the past and it is checking to see if this dirt contained a trap also???? A beaver usually will avoid a body grip when it has learned a lesson from one. I have seen where they have departed the water immediately in front of a body grip, climb the bank and reenter the water behind the body grip. This "avoidance" is the normal response by the beaver when it encounters a body grip that gives the beaver a danger signal.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783942 07/11/08 04:43 PM 07/11/08 04:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	so, basically, what your saying is im dead wrong, and a stick through the trap is not the beavers normal responce to avoiding a trap? i really hate being wrong...dangit

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783944 07/11/08 04:45 PM 07/11/08 04:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina	In my experience I have not seen where a beaver purposely fired a body grip trap. Does that mean it absolutely has never happened? No, I've simply never known it to happen. I learned a long time ago to never say never when dealing with beavers.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783947 07/11/08 04:46 PM 07/11/08 04:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN J j lord trapper
j lord trapper J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN	charles have you ever had a coyote put a stick in a foothold??? James Lord ------------- www.jlordvideos.com

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783951 07/11/08 04:48 PM 07/11/08 04:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina	Me too Buzz. A beaver will not hesitate to take a mouthfull of green sticks into a bodygrip.... once.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783954 07/11/08 04:50 PM 07/11/08 04:50 PM
N Nick C Unregistered
Nick C Unregistered N	LOL LOL LOL This post is too funny.. JUST when you think you know.... You have no idea....

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783956 07/11/08 04:51 PM 07/11/08 04:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	Originally Posted By: j lord charles have you ever had a coyote put a stick in a foothold??? ill play. Nope.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783959 07/11/08 04:51 PM 07/11/08 04:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	now, WHY would a beaver go in its lodge with a allready old aten stick? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???? Last edited by CharlesKS; 07/11/08 04:52 PM.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783962 07/11/08 04:52 PM 07/11/08 04:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,487 Eastern Shore of Maryland bad karma trapper
bad karma trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,487 Eastern Shore of Maryland	Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins I can't say that I've every known a situation where a beaver threw a 330 with a stick on purpose. I have known them to throw 330s though. I watched one do it, not once, but twice. The beaver approached the submerged body grip and right when it got to the trap, it did a forward summersault and it hit the trap with it's tail. I would have thought that the beaver recognized that it was a trap when it got close and turned quickly and accidentally fired the trap..... except I reset the trap and watched the beaver do it a second time. This was about ten feet from where a ditch emptied into a pond. The beaver would swim around the mouth of the ditch until I got done setting and then I backed off.... then it would come in and do its trick. I had Backbreaker behind the trap and I reckon that beaver wanted to get to it. If I'd have not approached the trap immediately after it fired it, I don't know if it would have gone past the fired trap to get to the lure. I pulled that trap because I was sure it would have been a waste of time leaving it. A CDR at a fake castor mound where the ditch entered the pond took care of this beaver. Boss, if he does that to a Belisle he only does it once. I have pictures Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783964 07/11/08 04:53 PM 07/11/08 04:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN J j lord trapper
j lord trapper J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN	lol me either, so i don't think a beaver is any smarter than a yote. if a beaver could do it, don't ya think a yote could too? $;\)$ James Lord ------------- www.jlordvideos.com

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783965 07/11/08 04:56 PM 07/11/08 04:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 16,559 Goldsboro, North Carolina	Mr. Karma, I've also caught beavers with green sticks in Dukes. Beaver and sticks were there. Don't matter what trap it is when sticks miss the trigger until the head is pushin on the trigger.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783966 07/11/08 04:56 PM 07/11/08 04:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	Originally Posted By: j lord lol me either, so i don't think a beaver is any smarter than a yote. if a beaver could do it, don't ya think a yote could too? $;\)$ suckhole

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783968 07/11/08 04:57 PM 07/11/08 04:57 PM
N Nick C Unregistered
Nick C Unregistered N	Charles, Didn't I take that picture?? LOL I see nothing.....I know nothing.....

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783973 07/11/08 04:59 PM 07/11/08 04:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	you did. and remember me calling you on the phone the next day, after you were back home, and i was pulling it out of the den, alive? there he is, the stick poking educated last beaver in the pond.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783975 07/11/08 05:01 PM 07/11/08 05:01 PM
N Nick C Unregistered
Nick C Unregistered N	LOL, LOL Remember the coyote we called up, that about run us over.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783986 07/11/08 05:20 PM 07/11/08 05:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	yea! he came from YOUR direction.... then, in all his intellegence, stopped at a well copied mouth originated bark, not only once, but TWICE!

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783989 07/11/08 05:21 PM 07/11/08 05:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,466 kentucky K kybeaverman trapper
kybeaverman trapper K Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,466 kentucky	I am no pro but I have caught lots of beavers and rats. I have never seen beaver work a connibear and throw it but. I have watched their patterns once they become trap wise. There is no question that beaver sometimes become aware of traps being a threat in their living area. I like most trappers have had success in areas where beaver have become trap wise using snares. The beaver are still there but they are NOT SWIMMING THROUGH A BODY GRIPPER. That doesnt mean that one will not slip up and do it but once they become wise to the trap their instinct is very keem I also feel that they intetionally fire traps by using sticks and mud. I have not seen it but my experience tells me that mature beaver are not only protecting themselves but their young as well. I will go a step farther and here some fellow trappers will really think I am stepping out on a limb but I belive that hard trapping pressure will make muskrats wise as well. Not nearly as wise as beavers, but we make a mistake when we underestimate the animals we pursue. Good luck. Last edited by kybeaverman; 07/11/08 05:26 PM.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: kybeaverman] #784002 07/11/08 05:38 PM 07/11/08 05:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	Smart coyotes don't dig up traps, they never go near sets! Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #784007 07/11/08 05:41 PM 07/11/08 05:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,373 Oregon Uncle Fester "Mongoose Master"
Uncle Fester "Mongoose Master" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,373 Oregon	Originally Posted By: CharlesKS OK, beaver pros, my boss says he dont believe a beaver will use a stick to fire off traps, as i was telling him they do, ive had it happen pics would be awesome. Yes Charles beaver will seek out and destroy traps using "weapons of opportunity" (sticks). Once a trap is located by the forward or recon element of the colony, they send out the signal to the rest of the colony. This signal is a high pitched squeal that cannot be heard by the human ear, but can be heard by every beaver in a 2 mile radious. The beaver then pinpoint the source of the signal within + or - 2 feet. They converge on this spot where they get an intel dump from the recon element. Once the brief is complete the security element will punch out and set up blocking positions at likely avenues of aproach. The recon element remains behind with HQ, and the assult element makes its move on the objective (the trap). This 3 beaver element usually has a primary and secondary breacher, both of wich are carrying sticks, the third is just there for moral support. With one swift, precision movement the primary jams the stick into the trap setting it off and forever keeping the colony safe. I hope this helps.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #784011 07/11/08 05:44 PM 07/11/08 05:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,577 West Tennessee D doublesettrigger trapper
doublesettrigger trapper D Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,577 West Tennessee	Originally Posted By: Buzzard A educated beaver will just turn into a ghost but still be there An educated beaver is about like having hemorrhoids removed by a dentist. Rickey

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Uncle Fester] #784014 07/11/08 05:46 PM 07/11/08 05:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	I always thought it was the keebler elve's that put those sticks in my trap, lol. Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784027 07/11/08 05:58 PM 07/11/08 05:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	CHIMPANZEES CAN USE STICKS AS TOOL!

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #784028 07/11/08 05:59 PM 07/11/08 05:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	They also have 97 percent of the same dna we have! How much does a beaver have? lol. Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784053 07/11/08 06:34 PM 07/11/08 06:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,205 southern michigan NACooner "aka Trapper Max"
NACooner "aka Trapper Max" Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,205 southern michigan	just my opinion, but if you have ANY old educated criiter, they will try to avoid gettin snapped, lol tm "Coons for the money, Coyotes for the show"

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: NACooner] #784077 07/11/08 07:03 PM 07/11/08 07:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN J j lord trapper
j lord trapper J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN	i'm sorry but i just can't give that much credit to a beaver, a rodent with a brain the size of a walnut imo, is not going to think "i bet if i hit these two little metal sticks with this soft chewy stick that i can make this 'trap' close and it won't be able to hurt me or my kids and we can swim around all we want". now get accustomed to seeing a square object that "the last time i got close to one of these things it almost bit me", yeah i can believe that. you folks that have had "square" 330 conni shy beaver ever tried a RBG and see what happens?? i set a square one in a den entrance and that beaver didnt go near her den for three days, i put a RBG in place of the square one and i caught her two nights later. James Lord ------------- www.jlordvideos.com

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784083 07/11/08 07:07 PM 07/11/08 07:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,914 Oregon TasteLikeChicken trapper
TasteLikeChicken trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,914 Oregon	IMO...they do not trigger them on purpose. It is accidental. They try to "thread" the stick they are carrying through the 330 and maybe make it trip...or get caught head and stick. I've also caught beaver with sticks and their feet in MB 750s. Once again...just putting the stick down, picking it up etc. Sack Punch Beaver Lure http://www.tlclures.co.nr/

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #784089 07/11/08 07:12 PM 07/11/08 07:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,709 North Central Kansas 61 yrs. Tomcat 30-06 trapper
Tomcat 30-06 trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,709 North Central Kansas 61 yrs.	I bet it was the yote hunters that were watching you that one day and you just thought the Beaver did it.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Tomcat 30-06] #784093 07/11/08 07:14 PM 07/11/08 07:14 PM
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BuckNE Unregistered B	Bigfoot can throw rocks.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Tomcat 30-06] #784094 07/11/08 07:14 PM 07/11/08 07:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN J j lord trapper
j lord trapper J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,725 Flatland TN	lmao tomcat........ hahahhaa James Lord ------------- www.jlordvideos.com

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #784177 07/11/08 08:05 PM 07/11/08 08:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	Most beaver i encounter that are scared of 330's are scared of ANYTHING out of the ordinary that wasn't there the night before be it a single stick sticking up, a snare, whatever! Anything above water they can see, why I own large footholds. Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #784178 07/11/08 08:06 PM 07/11/08 08:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,854 Magna, Utah G GritGuy trapper
GritGuy trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,854 Magna, Utah	Well this cleared up all of his needs LOL!! Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784352 07/11/08 10:57 PM 07/11/08 10:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 892 Ozarks of Missouri BaldKnobber1 trapper
BaldKnobber1 trapper Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 892 Ozarks of Missouri	Really smart beavers trick the snapping turtles into going first. Q: What's a Baldknobber? A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_Knobbers

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784391 07/11/08 11:33 PM 07/11/08 11:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 822 Texas J jdw trapper
jdw trapper J Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 822 Texas	charlesks, your just looking for beaver in all the wrong places

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784399 07/11/08 11:40 PM 07/11/08 11:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,847 Georgia 4 45/70 trapper
45/70 trapper 4 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,847 Georgia	I have watched beaver throw body grippers with sticks and debris. Going back up to Paul's post about beavers tail slapping a body gripper, I have a little experience with that also. However, I have tail snared numbers of beaver. Tails slapping is not the only reason this occurs, but I believe it is the most frequent cause. And, Yes, I have watched a beaver tail slap a snare, and catch himself. Later, 45/70,

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #784436 07/12/08 12:32 AM 07/12/08 12:32 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,569 Redgranite Wisconsin J JerryD trapper
JerryD trapper J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,569 Redgranite Wisconsin	Originally Posted By: j lord i'm sorry but i just can't give that much credit to a beaver, a rodent with a brain the size of a walnut imo, is not going to think "i bet if i hit these two little metal sticks with this soft chewy stick that i can make this 'trap' close and it won't be able to hurt me or my kids and we can swim around all we want". now get accustomed to seeing a square object that "the last time i got close to one of these things it almost bit me", yeah i can believe that. you folks that have had "square" 330 conni shy beaver ever tried a RBG and see what happens?? i set a square one in a den entrance and that beaver didnt go near her den for three days, i put a RBG in place of the square one and i caught her two nights later. I had a family of beaver that I trapped this season I caught the kits and a couple of 1-2 year old beaver but mom and dad avoided the 330's set in runs and crossovers like the plague. I set 2 660's further back from the runs and and caught the adults in two nights one after the other. I definitely believe changing the shape or outline is what caught those beaver. A little bit of pain never hurt anyone.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: JerryD] #784541 07/12/08 07:41 AM 07/12/08 07:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 685 Bland Va L larry king trapper
larry king trapper L Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 685 Bland Va	I have watched beavers take sticks and try and throw traps with them and if the traps dont throw they will take the trap by the hole at the end of the springs on a 330 and carry it up on their hut and pitch it off the hut to make the trap fire when it hits so him and his buddys wont get caught in it. Hows this for your boss charles. Its the biggest tale I could think of for the moment. Last edited by larry king; 07/12/08 07:42 AM. boys, there ain't no way salt can be bad for ya... if your eating it on buttered sweet corn...NO WAY

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784555 07/12/08 08:37 AM 07/12/08 08:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS CharlesKS OP trapper
CharlesKS OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,447 Kansas,32,6-1,220,B/B NS	Originally Posted By: Jtrapper They also have 97 percent of the same dna we have! How much does a beaver have? lol. some have the same as mine in them.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #784558 07/12/08 08:45 AM 07/12/08 08:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,380 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	I believe you! lmao. Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784815 07/12/08 01:19 PM 07/12/08 01:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 675 Churdan, Iowa rob trapper
rob trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 675 Churdan, Iowa	Charles, I've had them push 330's over and put mud on top of them. Of course that was after they welded the jaws shut on the trap. Cedar Creek Traps cedarcreeksetters@hotmail.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9mQxP3dEgQ&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9pTuzhrJY

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: rob] #784824 07/12/08 01:23 PM 07/12/08 01:23 PM
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BuckNE Unregistered B	I was standing in line at Scheel's the other day and there was a beaver in front of me with a dozen conibear safeties.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #784843 07/12/08 01:43 PM 07/12/08 01:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,543 Southwest Tennessee 45 yrs. warden trapper
warden trapper Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,543 Southwest Tennessee 45 yrs.	Charles, have you let your boss read the answers you have gotten here? LOL $\:\)$ "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!"

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: warden] #784870 07/12/08 02:07 PM 07/12/08 02:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,577 West Tennessee D doublesettrigger trapper
doublesettrigger trapper D Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,577 West Tennessee	Charles,,,Just do like some of the National media reporters have done. Tell the boss that you have learned from a reliable source of a secret scientific study that shows definitive proof that: beavers intentionally ram sticks into traps. All paperwork and pictures were shredded in an apparent coverup. Also let the boss know: that 7 out of 10 people make up 70% of the population. Rickey

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