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FHA catalogs #7868105
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They have started posting the catalogs on their web site. Live auction starts a week from today. Oh Boy!!!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868140
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
They have started posting the catalogs on their web site. Live auction starts a week from today. Oh Boy!!!


I'm not seeing that here on my end.

Usually they list finished catalogs printed in RED.

I'm not seeing any red listings.

Which species catalogs have they posted so far ?

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868176
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The posted catalogs are in black. The unposted ones are in light grey.

All of day 1 is posted.

Coyote, bobcat, ranch mink and a few others are not done.

Beaver is done.

Iíve never seen posted catalogs in red.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868206
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I wonder when trapper accounts will be updated for this sale.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868210
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No can find on site. Just a new heading for May sale catalogue but no species updated on it. Must be on buyer log in only Wissmiss?

No odds will happen.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868237
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No graded lots showing on my account yet either.Just reciepts.
Usually shows a couple or 3 days before the sale.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: walleyed] #7868238
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by wissmiss
They have started posting the catalogs on their web site. Live auction starts a week from today. Oh Boy!!!


I'm not seeing that here on my end.

Usually they list finished catalogs printed in RED.

I'm not seeing any red listings.

Which species catalogs have they posted so far ?

walleyed


I am now able to look at the posted catalogs
that are black as wissmiss has described.

They used to come out posted red in the past.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868254
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Click on buyer. Then click on auction catalog. Then the list will pop up. Should be accessible to everyone. No log in needed.

Shipper accounts will probably be updated Wednesday. But that is just my guess.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868260
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Got it; had to refresh home page only.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868328
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They just talked me through logging in for the first time this afternoon. She said they havenít got the furs in lots yet. My list of fur is there but not the lot theyíre in.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868452
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At this point Iím quite sure the fur has all been graded or just about and they are putting the finishing touches on the buyers catalogs.

If the catalog is online, the pelts in those species have been lotted. Inspection starts Tuesday!!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868660
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Donít they update your account before the auction so you can see what lots yours are in?

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868689
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Yes they do Jake.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7868723
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They do one big update once all the catalogs are ready. You just need to be patient.


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Under castor, does the number refer to how many sets of castor or weight?

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My account doesn't show any receipts for fur delivered in early April either..


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7868999
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
My account doesn't show any receipts for fur delivered in early April either..


Better give them a call.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7869006
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OK, guess I will. I would be bummed if they don't make it on this sale.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7869459
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All of the catalogs have been posted except raccoon. Also, raccoon has been moved to the very end of the auction. Last day - after Lynx, lynxcats and ranch mink. Guess they are really excited about the raccoon offering - I wonder how many buyers will be in the room???

Castor - the number is the weight. I think they use ounces but Iím not sure. They do take a deduction for weight loss due to drying.


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
My account doesn't show any receipts for fur delivered in early April either..


Myself and my buddy's receipts were both up May 5. Yes you better give them a call.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7869511
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
My account doesn't show any receipts for fur delivered in early April either..


Sounds like you are in the same
boat as the Legendary COONMAN !!!! shocked

You are screwed !!!! laugh

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Shucks!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7869554
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Castor - the number is the weight. I think they use ounces but Iím not sure. They do take a deduction for weight loss due to drying.


Thanks, makes sense. Think I had roughly 1.5lbs on my cheap scale.

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Shucks!


Carl, that will really suck if your beaver didnít make this sale. Should have been plenty of time aftermKlamayj. Have you checked with your consignment agent?


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Not yet. I just got done emailing Cheryl so I'll wait to see what she says first I guess. I met up with George B. in Washington about the 1st of April.

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Well, my agent confirmed that he ran off with my beaver, sold them, and now lives on an Island he bought in the Carribbean with the proceeds.

Actually maybe it was more like: "Be patient...they're up there and in the system".


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What's procedure for setting up online account ? I hadn't shipped to fha in twenty years, used a new agent this year and sent some bvr and otter.

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Originally Posted by eedup
What's procedure for setting up online account ? I hadn't shipped to fha in twenty years, used a new agent this year and sent some bvr and otter.


Probably call them and they will help you set it up. Might need the number on the paper receipt you got from the agent when you dropped off the fur.

Fairly easy process. Do it once and you are all set for the future.


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Just talked to Greg, my info was in but they gave me another account number and password. Thanks Nancy

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The online catalog with values is now available to registered buyers. Pictures will be added this evening.

On line bidding starts tomorrow.

Itís almost SHOW TIME!!!

Hope everyone with fur on this sale does well. Or as well as can be expected on some species.


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
The online catalog with values is now available to registered buyers. Pictures will be added this evening.

On line bidding starts tomorrow.

Itís almost SHOW TIME!!!

Hope everyone with fur on this sale does well. Or as well as can be expected on some species.


If the catalogs are complete and posted for online bids starting tomorrow they sure are dragging out the posting of lotting for the shippers lolÖ


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Originally Posted by mud
Originally Posted by wissmiss
The online catalog with values is now available to registered buyers. Pictures will be added this evening.

On line bidding starts tomorrow.

Itís almost SHOW TIME!!!

Hope everyone with fur on this sale does well. Or as well as can be expected on some species.


If the catalogs are complete and posted for online bids starting tomorrow they sure are dragging out the posting of lotting for the shippers lolÖ


Yup !!!!

But they don't want to overload the Commodore 64
and crash the FHA system !!! laugh

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You must be out of the loop Walleyes-they got a commodore 65 now.

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Originally Posted by eedup
What's procedure for setting up online account ? I hadn't shipped to fha in twenty years, used a new agent this year and sent some bvr and otter.

Youíll need the number on the receipt and then call or email them for the password. Maybe theyíll have your old info for sending the check?

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Got my info and password, can't log in, said new accounts are still being updated.....

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Online starts tomorrow. If you cannot attend in person, put in your max bid by a specific time. Online bids will be counted on the live auction. In the event of a tie the hammer goes to the person in attendance.

Why? The online bidder bid first. Make the guy in the room beat it... just sayin

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I think that statement by FH about online bids is misleading. Iím not sure if it is 100% accurate.

I listened to quite a bit of the March auction, especially lots that I bid on via the on line auction. Never once did I hear a tie bid.

It seemed to me that the opening bid was the high bid from the on line auction. And the bidding went there there.

Example - The on line bidder bid $6.00. That is where the auction room bidding started. If some one in the auction room wanted to bid, they would have to bid $6.50. If no one in the room bids, the on line bidder buys it for $6.00

The only down side is that the buyers in the room were able to figure out that the opening bid was online and all they had to do is bid the next bid and they would win because the on line bidder couldnít bid again.

I lost any number of lots by 50 cents. But thatís life.


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I think that statement by FH about online bids is misleading. Iím not sure if it is 100% accurate.

I listened to quite a bit of the March auction, especially lots that I bid on via the on line auction. Never once did I hear a tie bid.

It seemed to me that the opening bid was the high bid from the on line auction. And the bidding went there there.

Example - The on line bidder bid $6.00. That is where the auction room bidding started. If some one in the auction room wanted to bid, they would have to bid $6.50. If no one in the room bids, the on line bidder buys it for $6.00

The only down side is that the buyers in the room were able to figure out that the opening bid was online and all they had to do is bid the next bid and they would win because the on line bidder couldnít bid again.

I lost any number of lots by 50 cents. But thatís life.


Must be different then any online bidding I've done. You put a max bid and if someone online max bid is higher it will automatically go to that. Example if your max is $10 and mine is $15 it will go to $10.25 or whatever the increments are. If a live bidder is in theater it'll go up in .25 increments till either my max bid is reached and the live bidder goes to $15.25. Clear as mud?

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What you wrote is exactly how it worked in March. Guess Iím not following why you are saying my example was different.

Would appreciate it if you would help unconfuse me. LOL. Thanks.


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I think that statement by FH about online bids is misleading. Iím not sure if it is 100% accurate.

I listened to quite a bit of the March auction, especially lots that I bid on via the on line auction. Never once did I hear a tie bid.

It seemed to me that the opening bid was the high bid from the on line auction. And the bidding went there there.

Example - The on line bidder bid $6.00. That is where the auction room bidding started. If some one in the auction room wanted to bid, they would have to bid $6.50. If no one in the room bids, the on line bidder buys it for $6.00

The only down side is that the buyers in the room were able to figure out that the opening bid was online and all they had to do is bid the next bid and they would win because the on line bidder couldnít bid again.

I lost any number of lots by 50 cents. But thatís life.


Gotta be better way so that on line, and in person bidding, are integrated and can bid against each other in real time. Having said that I know nil about auctions but to my poor understanding the auction is potentially leaving money on the table. Where the auction works on a commission basis seems both the auction and the shipper loose without real time bidding between remote and auction room buyers. The benefit is to the buyer. Maybe it cost too much to do that and the losses outweigh the benefits. Again I don't know and would like to have it explained.

Wissmiss said she lost any number of lots by .50 cents. More money than that on the line as no telling how high she, or the auction room buyers, would have went if they could real time bid against each other.

Tell me what I am missing here.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870404
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I think it gets tricky. Guys wait until the last second and click send to out bid another buyer by $1. Iíve been on different web auctions where you just put your max bid and thatís it.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870422
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
What you wrote is exactly how it worked in March. Guess Iím not following why you are saying my example was different.

Would appreciate it if you would help unconfuse me. LOL. Thanks.


I was under the impression that you figured the bidding started at the highest max online bid when instead it starts at the highest winning bid. If I misread your comment my apologies.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870485
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Some online auctions you have two bids one is what you would like to buy it for and the other is max you will go. Example I bid $3 on 50 rats but my max bid is $5 so start bidding at 3, someone bids 3.50 bid goes to 4 and so on up to 5 where I would still be the winning bidder. FHA needs to catch up to tech.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Rat Masterson] #7870493
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Some online auctions you have two bids one is what you would like to buy it for and the other is max you will go. Example I bid $3 on 50 rats but my max bid is $5 so start bidding at 3, someone bids 3.50 bid goes to 4 and so on up to 5 where I would still be the winning bidder. FHA needs to catch up to tech.


Online bidding isn't bad. The timed Online bidding is a pita. Seems that some watch the timer and will sneak in their bid just at the right time before the clock runs out. As a bidder with the highest max bid or a seller a guy can get bent over and not reach the max value of what is being sold.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870504
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OK, my beaver are showing up now. If I would've known how the new trapper portal works they were probably there all along. Me and new technology get along like water and oil.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870510
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Any lotting on yours yet Carl ?? I am wondering the hold up with the catalogs completed and online bidding ongoing.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870513
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Good ol' Cheryl came through...she just sent me this:

[Linked Image]


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870514
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Nice. Hopefully they release them all soon


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870519
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Did your 3 real bad ones make it into dg grade or did they no value them?


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870524
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They're all accounted for. Doubt whether any of the three made select heavy though!

You mean the ones like this one (for those that don't know what Mud is talking about).
[Linked Image]

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7870526
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Good ol' Cheryl came through...she just sent me this:

[Linked Image]


Looks like only the light brown pales are western beaver this year. Good thing the grade never changes. smile


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870527
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Some of those beaver came from the Oregon coast and some from the Willamette river. Big difference in quality.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870530
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Funny BP, my absolute worst one had perfect leather. It was bizarre. And it was a bad one!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870613
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Mine are up.
Tougher beaver grade it seems for me but good on rats. A lot graded black which I figured.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7870618
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Good ol' Cheryl came through...she just sent me this:

[Linked Image]


Cheryl is the best.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870626
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Can someone explain what this means. This is my fisher.

50132. STR 33 1X-LG 1-11 PL D


I'm unsure what the STR, PL and D mean?

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870627
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STR-String,PL-Pale(colour) D-clarity (A is best D is worst)


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870628
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Boco] #7870630
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Originally Posted by Boco
STR-String,PL-Pale(colour) D-clarity (A is best D is worst)


Ok. Is the clarity anything I've done as a trapper putting it up or just the way it is?

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870635
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Just off colour,in any particular colour,not from handling.
Clarity grades are
A- clear
B- slightly Off
C- Off
D- Badly off or stained.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870637
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Thanks boco. I appreciate your knowledge.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870638
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No problem Bud.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870643
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NWALTA just to explain the string a little more: there are two lots (50132 and 50133) in the catelogue with that grade with 33 and 6 pelts respectively. The 6 are the show/viewing lot ones for buyer inspection. They are in a string of 39 with 2 lots (33 + 6). Things like muskrats have many lots in a single grade to make up a string. Sometimes they all go the same price and sometimes there is a slight difference.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: crosspatch] #7870647
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
NWALTA just to explain the string a little more: there are two lots (50132 and 50133) in the catelogue with that grade with 33 and 6 pelts respectively. The 6 are the show/viewing lot ones for buyer inspection. They are in a string of 39 with 2 lots (33 + 6). Things like muskrats have many lots in a single grade to make up a string. Sometimes they all go the same price and sometimes there is a slight difference.


Ok thanks I was wondering if mine was a group of 33. Thanks for clarification.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870739
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Muskrats 80351, 3x-2x Select Heavy are graded but not in the catalogue. They are fresh and have not gone up for a sale yet so not sold PT. Holding for next sale?

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870751
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Saskfly my buddy and I both have a red fox on our accounts, in same lot, with the lot not listed either. Seen this before. They went PT before the sale. They do this if they figure they get a good enough offer/order before the sale. Relative to recent 'rat prices suspect you got a good price for them given the grade. Seem like top lot or near.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870759
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One of my lynx is upgraded. Unsure what that means as I don't believe I sent any junk to the sale.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7870780
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You sure it doesnt say ungraded?
Just means it will show up later.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Boco] #7870811
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Originally Posted by Boco
You sure it doesnt say ungraded?
Just means it will show up later.


Yep that's what it says. Spell check gets a guy sometimes.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: crosspatch] #7870924
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Saskfly my buddy and I both have a red fox on our accounts, in same lot, with the lot not listed either. Seen this before. They went PT before the sale. They do this if they figure they get a good enough offer/order before the sale. Relative to recent 'rat prices suspect you got a good price for them given the grade. Seem like top lot or near.


Thanks, have three in the lot.....maybe they went for enough I can buy myself an ice cream cone laugh

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7871067
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Looking forward to sale Ö good to see trapping friends excited about something again. Hope sale continues to trend up .. last sale gave some promise on some species. Friends of mine got a top lot marten (80 us value) and another some SEL Black Wolves . They should do well if last sale an indication. Hopefully rats move, and coyotes repair a little more

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7871080
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CDN not sure if people noticed but last 2 years top lot marten at FHA are in several lots. This sale they are in lots 001 - 003. 256 skins, identical grade, in a string of 3 lots. Any skin in lots 001 - 003 is a top lot marten. The odd time there will be a small price difference in those lots if the auctioneer allows what they call "a drop". Not sure why a drop is allowed but you see it if you watch live auction enough on some lots in various strings.

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Good point - didnít realize lot was so large. 3X / 2X Sel XDK-DK descriptionÖ sounds pretty nice on first 3 lots


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Saskfly] #7871120
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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Originally Posted by crosspatch
Saskfly my buddy and I both have a red fox on our accounts, in same lot, with the lot not listed either. Seen this before. They went PT before the sale. They do this if they figure they get a good enough offer/order before the sale. Relative to recent 'rat prices suspect you got a good price for them given the grade. Seem like top lot or near.


Thanks, have three in the lot.....maybe they went for enough I can buy myself an ice cream cone laugh


Probably not.

You've entered the imaginary realm of the fantastic !!!!! laugh

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7871784
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BTW for those who may be wondering, although access is not showing on the FHA website yet, the auction is supposed to be broadcast as in the past few years.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7871849
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
They're all accounted for. Doubt whether any of the three made select heavy though!

You mean the ones like this one (for those that don't know what Mud is talking about).
[Linked Image]

Is that one of the Gd DGD or how do you think it graded?
There was one in my bag that my dog got to. Nicely put up winter beaver, all ripped, and the worst grades on mine are GD DGD

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: crosspatch] #7871856
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
BTW for those who may be wondering, although access is not showing on the FHA website yet, the auction is supposed to be broadcast as in the past few years.



Broadcast info is now posted. It will be streaming once the auction starts tomorrow morning. 8 AM eastern time. That is 5 AM here in north Idaho!!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872084
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Anyone have sound on the broadcast?

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No sound - will try contact them

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872090
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They are aware and trying to fix.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Shakeyjake] #7872128
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
They're all accounted for. Doubt whether any of the three made select heavy though!

You mean the ones like this one (for those that don't know what Mud is talking about).
[Linked Image]

Is that one of the Gd DGD or how do you think it graded?
There was one in my bag that my dog got to. Nicely put up winter beaver, all ripped, and the worst grades on mine are GD DGD

There are no more beaver grades with the description "Bad" attached to the grade. The worst skins are "Good Dam".

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872129
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Who are the main buyers of black bears? Just curious as to where they go and purposes used.
Do they still use them for British guard regalia?

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Can somebody post a link to view the auction please? I. any seem to find one anywhere

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872135
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Prices are looking good!

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872163
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Bear claws are used for jewelry, especially in the American SW. bears canít be sold in Ontario unless they have the claws attached.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872180
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what time do the beaver go?


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Originally Posted by mnsota
Who are the main buyers of black bears? Just curious as to where they go and purposes used.
Do they still use them for British guard regalia?


United Kingdom:
The following units and their bands have the bearskin cap as part of their full dress:
Grenadier Guards
Coldstream Guards
Scots Guards
Irish Guards
Welsh Guards
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
Honourable Artillery Company

The standard bearskin for the British foot guards is 11 inches (280 millimetres) tall at the front, 16 inches (410 millimetres) to the rear, weighs 1.5 pounds (0.68 kilograms), and is made from the fur of the Canadian black bear. However, an officer's bearskin is made from the fur of the Canadian brown bear, as the female brown bear has thicker, fuller fur; officers' caps are dyed black. An entire skin is used for each head-dress. The British Army purchase the caps from a British hatmaker which sources its pelts at an international auction. The hatmakers purchase between 50 and 100 black bear skins each year at a cost of about £650 each. If properly maintained, the caps last for decades.

USA:
Presently one military unit in the United States uses a bearskin cap as a part of their ceremonial uniform, the Second Company Governor's Foot Guard of the Connecticut State Guard. Also most drum majors of military bands are authorized to wear a bearskin cap.

Uruguay
The Uruguayan Army's Company of Sappers of 1837 uses the bearskin cap as a part of its ceremonial uniform as the guard of honour company of the Uruguayan Supreme Court.

Denmark:
Royal Life Guard

Australia:
Royal Australian Regiment
Pipes and Drums 3d Battalion

Belgium:
Regiment Carabiniers Prins Boudewijn and Belgian Royal Escorts

Spain:
1st Company of 1st Kings Immemorial Infantry Regiment

Netherlands:
Grenadiers and Rifle Guard Regiments

Canada:
The Royal 22e Rťgiment
The Governor General's Foot Guards
The Canadian Grenadier Guards
The Royal Regiment of Canada
Les Fusiliers du St-Laurent
Les Fusiliers Mont-Royal
The Princess Louise Fusiliers
Les Fusiliers de Sherbrooke

Obviously only worn during ceremonial roles and the hats last forever when they are taken care of, have looked at some that where from the 1930 and still in use. The liner had been replaced a couple times, is all.

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
what time do the beaver go?


Beaver open up the auction tomorrow at 8 am Eastern

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If anybody is so inclined I would sure appreciate seeing some of the hammer prices on beaver i have. i can't watch tomorrow as I have a farmers market to attend.

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I should catch the first hour before work BP. Iíll have an idea. Iíll pm if you make some space


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Did you make that chart Karl ? I have 54 bvr but my phone doesn't list like that

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
what time do the beaver go?


Carl - you are over your limit. Empty your mailbox so I can talk to you.

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Originally Posted by eedup
Did you make that chart Karl ? I have 54 bvr but my phone doesn't list like that

Actually Cheryl up at FHA sent that via email. I still can't see my grades on my new finagled FHA portal, just that I have 52 beaver there.


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
what time do the beaver go?


Carl - you are over your limit. Empty your mailbox so I can talk to you.

Thanks.


OK, I did open some space I think.


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by eedup
Did you make that chart Karl ? I have 54 bvr but my phone doesn't list like that

Actually Cheryl up at FHA sent that via email. I still can't see my grades on my new finagled FHA portal, just that I have 52 beaver there.

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Mine came out in list form was why I asked, I've got 54 Arkansas bvr there and was comparing to yours. Sold 80 some early for 13 each. green frozen, and 90 put up for 19.50/#. Definitely better bonus for bvr control work this year !

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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Originally Posted by mnsota
Who are the main buyers of black bears? Just curious as to where they go and purposes used.
Do they still use them for British guard regalia?


United Kingdom:
The following units and their bands have the bearskin cap as part of their full dress:
Grenadier Guards
Coldstream Guards
Scots Guards
Irish Guards
Welsh Guards
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
Honourable Artillery Company

The standard bearskin for the British foot guards is 11 inches (280 millimetres) tall at the front, 16 inches (410 millimetres) to the rear, weighs 1.5 pounds (0.68 kilograms), and is made from the fur of the Canadian black bear. However, an officer's bearskin is made from the fur of the Canadian brown bear, as the female brown bear has thicker, fuller fur; officers' caps are dyed black. An entire skin is used for each head-dress. The British Army purchase the caps from a British hatmaker which sources its pelts at an international auction. The hatmakers purchase between 50 and 100 black bear skins each year at a cost of about £650 each. If properly maintained, the caps last for decades.

USA:
Presently one military unit in the United States uses a bearskin cap as a part of their ceremonial uniform, the Second Company Governor's Foot Guard of the Connecticut State Guard. Also most drum majors of military bands are authorized to wear a bearskin cap.

Uruguay
The Uruguayan Army's Company of Sappers of 1837 uses the bearskin cap as a part of its ceremonial uniform as the guard of honour company of the Uruguayan Supreme Court.

Denmark:
Royal Life Guard

Australia:
Royal Australian Regiment
Pipes and Drums 3d Battalion

Belgium:
Regiment Carabiniers Prins Boudewijn and Belgian Royal Escorts

Spain:
1st Company of 1st Kings Immemorial Infantry Regiment

Netherlands:
Grenadiers and Rifle Guard Regiments

Canada:
The Royal 22e Rťgiment
The Governor General's Foot Guards
The Canadian Grenadier Guards
The Royal Regiment of Canada
Les Fusiliers du St-Laurent
Les Fusiliers Mont-Royal
The Princess Louise Fusiliers
Les Fusiliers de Sherbrooke

Obviously only worn during ceremonial roles and the hats last forever when they are taken care of, have looked at some that where from the 1930 and still in use. The liner had been replaced a couple times, is all.




Thank you Saskfly for the thorough reply, I hadn't realized they were used to such extent.
I think I had read at one time that England was contemplating ending their use. Good to see still being used.

Thanks wissmiss.

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Good to acknowledge mnsota.

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See one of my lynx is still not graded. Hate to bother Cheryl so anyone got a idea on why?

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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Originally Posted by mnsota
Who are the main buyers of black bears? Just curious as to where they go and purposes used.
Do they still use them for British guard regalia?


United Kingdom:
The following units and their bands have the bearskin cap as part of their full dress:
Grenadier Guards
Coldstream Guards
Scots Guards
Irish Guards
Welsh Guards
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
Honourable Artillery Company

The standard bearskin for the British foot guards is 11 inches (280 millimetres) tall at the front, 16 inches (410 millimetres) to the rear, weighs 1.5 pounds (0.68 kilograms), and is made from the fur of the Canadian black bear. However, an officer's bearskin is made from the fur of the Canadian brown bear, as the female brown bear has thicker, fuller fur; officers' caps are dyed black. An entire skin is used for each head-dress. The British Army purchase the caps from a British hatmaker which sources its pelts at an international auction. The hatmakers purchase between 50 and 100 black bear skins each year at a cost of about £650 each. If properly maintained, the caps last for decades.

USA:
Presently one military unit in the United States uses a bearskin cap as a part of their ceremonial uniform, the Second Company Governor's Foot Guard of the Connecticut State Guard. Also most drum majors of military bands are authorized to wear a bearskin cap.

Uruguay
The Uruguayan Army's Company of Sappers of 1837 uses the bearskin cap as a part of its ceremonial uniform as the guard of honour company of the Uruguayan Supreme Court.

Denmark:
Royal Life Guard

Australia:
Royal Australian Regiment
Pipes and Drums 3d Battalion

Belgium:
Regiment Carabiniers Prins Boudewijn and Belgian Royal Escorts

Spain:
1st Company of 1st Kings Immemorial Infantry Regiment

Netherlands:
Grenadiers and Rifle Guard Regiments

Canada:
The Royal 22e Rťgiment
The Governor General's Foot Guards
The Canadian Grenadier Guards
The Royal Regiment of Canada
Les Fusiliers du St-Laurent
Les Fusiliers Mont-Royal
The Princess Louise Fusiliers
Les Fusiliers de Sherbrooke

Obviously only worn during ceremonial roles and the hats last forever when they are taken care of, have looked at some that where from the 1930 and still in use. The liner had been replaced a couple times, is all.

Good research Saskfly, I appreciate your info!

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Any bets on whether beaver will hold to March levels...be less, or more than March? My guess is that we may see a slight advance in the bigger sizes and a little less on the smaller sizes as compared to March.


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Being the eternal pessimist I am, and considering I have all of mine there at this auction Iíd guess down, lol.


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Crazy how lots in the same string can be $10 different

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Top lot beaver was over $700, Mr. Greg Schroeder bought it. Said it was the biggest beaver he had ever received to be shipped. They never actually gave a size.

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Any bets on whether beaver will hold to March levels...be less, or more than March? My guess is that we may see a slight advance in the bigger sizes and a little less on the smaller sizes as compared to March.


Just listening to the live stream it seems like it will be the same as March. More interest and bidding on the large and smaller beaver.

But I do not have the March catalog pulled up, or this catalog pulled up. So I could be completely wrong!!!


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The beaver is done . Sounded like 100% clearance with a lot of interest but around the same prices as March is what it seemed like .

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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Top lot beaver was over $700, Mr. Greg Schroeder bought it. Said it was the biggest beaver he had ever received to be shipped. They never actually gave a size.

I watch FHA auction that beaver, 80" and $775 was the top bid. We all need 10-20 of those in our lot! grin

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The guy who sent that will have a nice avg,lol.
That price has been beat in the past.

One year 6 beaver in the top lot sold for $1200 per pelt.
I know the guy that had 2 pelts in that lot.He used to ship to NAFA,but missed the fur pick up that sale so he shipped to FHA.

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When he says a starting price, lowers it, then moves to the next lot, I guess that means theyíre hanging onto it? Sell PT or at the next auction?

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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
When he says a starting price, lowers it, then moves to the next lot, I guess that means theyíre hanging onto it? Sell PT or at the next auction?


Correct. If the hammer doesnít fall, the lot is not sold in the auction room.


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So how can the fur of the same string, size and grade but different lot have such a big sale price difference?

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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
So how can the fur of the same string, size and grade but different lot have such a big sale price difference?


Itís a live auction. Sometimes buyers are a lot or two behind and havenít kept up on the lot they are on. Sometimes people try to drop their price on the string to try to get a better deal, which can open up bidding on the string too.


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Some times a buyer only need one lot and will pay a premium for it. If he ďdrops outĒ and the second bidder doesnít step in, the auctioneer might go back to the original starting price and start again.

Just the luck of the draw who has pelts in the higher price lot.


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Thatís the only thing I could think of, luck of the draw what lot your fur is sometimes

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Appears that the online guys can't bid during live auction? If this is correct I figure that they are leaving money on the table that the producers could be making.

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Did anybody see what the beaver in lot 10012 did? That was my best one.


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BP - accounts were just updated for all sales up to noon today.

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Originally Posted by Norwestalta
Appears that the online guys can't bid during live auction? If this is correct I figure that they are leaving money on the table that the producers could be making.


That is correct. It was clearly stated that online bidding would end at 6 PM eastern time on Thursday the 25th.

Not sure what technology would be required to integrate the 2 types of selling. Might be too expensive and/or compacted.

And there is no guarantee how many online bidders would be pushed farther. I know the customers I am bidding for have given me their maximum bids.


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BP - accounts were just updated for all sales up to noon today.


Wow, will give it to FHA for updating the accounts during the auction.......use to be a couple days after the auction.

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Fox is still low but the most I have seen online bids come into play this sale. See the opening bid online and they have a max set and bidding against the room.

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Originally Posted by wissmiss
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Appears that the online guys can't bid during live auction? If this is correct I figure that they are leaving money on the table that the producers could be making.


That is correct. It was clearly stated that online bidding would end at 6 PM eastern time on Thursday the 25th.

Not sure what technology would be required to integrate the 2 types of selling. Might be too expensive and/or compacted.

And there is no guarantee how many online bidders would be pushed farther. I know the customers I am bidding for have given me their maximum bids.


Maybe not everyone go higher then their max but I'm sure some would. I mistakenly thought they all were run like a ritchie bros auction. It don't seem right to me but I guess that's the way it is. I now understand what you mentioned earlier.

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What's a red fox graded B@$% (child born out of wedlock) mean?

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Originally Posted by Saskfly
What's a red fox graded B@$% (child born out of wedlock) mean?


Usually one with a lot of grey on the hips. Not good for the fur trade but the tourist trade likes them.


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Does anyone know what the top price for ermine was?

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Saskfly] #7872817
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$7.50 for the top lot rats : HEAVY WINTER SELECTS.

I had one of those.

The rest of the rats are no-sale-ing across the board.

Brutal !!!

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: d2009] #7872828
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9 xxl skins for $22.50 top for ermine. Dropped to $6 after that.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872830
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Thanks crosspatch, I saw that lot of 9 , I wondered if maybe the top two or three lots would go as top lot but no such luck!

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872832
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Walleye , was that lot 80001? I had 3 in that lot, I expected a higher price to be honest?

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: d2009] #7872836
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Originally Posted by d2009
Walleye , was that lot 80001? I had 3 in that lot, I expected a higher price to be honest?


YUP,

Lots# 80001 thru 80004 were all in the same TOP LOT string.

That was my only rat to sell out of 234 total.

Might be a bloodbath in the private treaty room here shortly !!! shocked

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872838
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Oh boy 😬! Thanks!

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: d2009] #7872850
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Originally Posted by d2009
Oh boy 😬! Thanks!



Yup,

We gonna be flush with cash, now !!! laugh

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872891
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I had 2 rats in top lot the rest went to never never land! grin

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872918
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Boco] #7872981
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Originally Posted by Boco
The guy who sent that will have a nice avg,lol.
That price has been beat in the past.

One year 6 beaver in the top lot sold for $1200 per pelt.
I know the guy that had 2 pelts in that lot.He used to ship to NAFA,but missed the fur pick up that sale so he shipped to FHA.

That would have been back about 1985, I think. $1200 USD in 1985 is multiplied by 2.85 in today's dollars. SO, that would be an equivalent of $3420 in today's U.S. dollars, we have a ways to go for that to come back. And, it appears these levels may be the new beaver market for a few years.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872987
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It's been pretty obvious all selling season that there is very little to no interest in rats. Not sure why anyone would expect different results. They say hope is eternal so I guess there's that.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7872993
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Part of why rats prices are still languishing is you can buy a similar size brown female mink at SAGA for $12-$13 USD. so there isn't much reason to look for a cheaper alternative. And a rat, even a good rat is still a rat.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873001
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You guys need to start buying your kids coonskin caps like you wore back in the 50's and 60's
That will kick start the coon market.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873015
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Many coon skin caps on the market today are made with rabbit fur with a real raccoon tail added on.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873029
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Need some kinda new series on tv to drive the market. I saw a coon skin hat at a store in Vegas, felt like cheap Christmas tree tinsel.

I guess not all the accounts are updated. I click on lots and zippo still.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873036
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Shakeyjake - the most important thing about deal with FH is PATIENCE!!

They are a small operation when compared to what NAFA was. Everyone on their staff wears multiple hats. Things will happen and get updated in due time.

Everything is cool!!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873040
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Would anyone like to share how their beavers sold ? What little I heard of the otter they was moving very slow.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873041
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Many coon skin caps on the market today are made with rabbit fur with a real raccoon tail added on.


Real coon fur hats look nicer.
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873045
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Many coon skin caps on the market today are made with rabbit fur with a real raccoon tail added on.


Must be those South Dakota tail gunners supplying that market! grin

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Tommie] #7873051
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Originally Posted by Tommie
Would anyone like to share how their beavers sold ? What little I heard of the otter they was moving very slow.


I'd like to if I could. My account went down mid-auction, and now I can't even open the main web site. Practicing my patience.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873053
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873057
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873078
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Tried signing into fha and got a alert saying my connection is not secure. Don't know what that means or if it's their end or mine.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Norwestalta] #7873085
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Originally Posted by Norwestalta
Tried signing into fha and got a alert saying my connection is not secure. Don't know what that means or if it's their end or mine.

Iím getting the same thing.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873089
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I think it is a problem on FH end. At least it is happening when the auction is not going on. Hopefully it will be fixed by tomorrow morning.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Bigbrownie] #7873091
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by Norwestalta
Tried signing into fha and got a alert saying my connection is not secure. Don't know what that means or if it's their end or mine.

Iím getting the same thing.


I read the alert and it sounds like a hacker type of thing. Hoping it's not and just kind of a confuser problem.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873092
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Well, on the beaver i didn't sell locally (had an overall average of I think $23 for my offer) I ended up with 52 @ 34.31 avg. The funny thing to me is a beautiful coastal select heavy brown only fetched $6 more than a bit up half rotten blanket that brought $40! Blows my mind. And obviously one tends to exert more effort on the put up for a beautiful beaver than one does on the crap.

And I said this at least once before....if you have a #1 blanket beaver..... better nick a few times with your skinning knife to get it into the gd dmg grade. My blanket 'gd dmg' were $40 all the way through. Some of my slights didn't quite make that number.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873109
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How did you access that already Carl ? I click on lots and get nothing

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: eedup] #7873110
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I am getting the same not secure notice and no entry as well. Sounds like I don't need to be in a rush to see how my 19 rats did. I sold 4 at the last sale for $7.60 each. Don't know if any sold this time or not.
My alert says there may be someone trying to act like Fur Harvestors to get information. I guess we need to wait this one out.
Bryce

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: eedup] #7873122
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Originally Posted by eedup
How did you access that already Carl ? I click on lots and get nothing


Somebody had posted that the numbers had been added earlier today and I clicked on lots and saw everything. I tried right now and the site is apparently down. So you're still in suspense? Hopefully you had a lot of crapola beaver that graded gd dmg! I even got $33 for gd dmg L's!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873153
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873156
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I had bvr in some of the same lots as you, and some the lot before or after. If I had a nifty table like Cheryl sent you I'd try post it. Might have to just come see you compare notes

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873176
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Of course I always send Cheryl a box of chocolates before every sale too. I highly recommend that. Girl loves them chocolates.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873284
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Shakeyjake - the most important thing about deal with FH is PATIENCE!!

They are a small operation when compared to what NAFA was. Everyone on their staff wears multiple hats. Things will happen and get updated in due time.

Everything is cool!!


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Bigbrownie] #7873291
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by Norwestalta
Tried signing into fha and got a alert saying my connection is not secure. Don't know what that means or if it's their end or mine.

Iím getting the same thing.


Just went into 2 accounts and no problems or "not secure" notice. Suggest system may have been down for updating accounts.

Accounts were updated overnight at least as far as wild silver fox mid PM yesterday and suspect yote and 'rats are done too i.e. all yesterday updated on accounts.

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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7873315
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Well, on the beaver i didn't sell locally (had an overall average of I think $23 for my offer) I ended up with 52 @ 34.31 avg. The funny thing to me is a beautiful coastal select heavy brown only fetched $6 more than a bit up half rotten blanket that brought $40! Blows my mind. And obviously one tends to exert more effort on the put up for a beautiful beaver than one does on the crap.

And I said this at least once before....if you have a #1 blanket beaver..... better nick a few times with your skinning knife to get it into the gd dmg grade. My blanket 'gd dmg' were $40 all the way through. Some of my slights didn't quite make that number.


I know, crazy. And same thing with lots in the same string having such different prices, identical grades. Maybe they see something in the lot they like when they inspect them before the auction?

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$80, nothing, do I have $70Ö.then the bids come in and the cat sells for $110.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873376
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On my trapper portal it still says no lots found....

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: beaverpeeler] #7873381
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Well, on the beaver i didn't sell locally (had an overall average of I think $23 for my offer) I ended up with 52 @ 34.31 avg. The funny thing to me is a beautiful coastal select heavy brown only fetched $6 more than a bit up half rotten blanket that brought $40! Blows my mind. And obviously one tends to exert more effort on the put up for a beautiful beaver than one does on the crap.

And I said this at least once before....if you have a #1 blanket beaver..... better nick a few times with your skinning knife to get it into the gd dmg grade. My blanket 'gd dmg' were $40 all the way through. Some of my slights didn't quite make that number.

^^^^^ Another good indication that the beaver market is mostly a HATTER market. Better off to not to put em up, if you have an outlet for frozen pelts.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: Shakeyjake] #7873383
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
$80, nothing, do I have $70Ö.then the bids come in and the cat sells for $110.



Thatís standard auction procedure. Everyone is trying to get it as cheap as they can.


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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Well, on the beaver i didn't sell locally (had an overall average of I think $23 for my offer) I ended up with 52 @ 34.31 avg. The funny thing to me is a beautiful coastal select heavy brown only fetched $6 more than a bit up half rotten blanket that brought $40! Blows my mind. And obviously one tends to exert more effort on the put up for a beautiful beaver than one does on the crap.

And I said this at least once before....if you have a #1 blanket beaver..... better nick a few times with your skinning knife to get it into the gd dmg grade. My blanket 'gd dmg' were $40 all the way through. Some of my slights didn't quite make that number.


I know, crazy. And same thing with lots in the same string having such different prices, identical grades. Maybe they see something in the lot they like when they inspect them before the auction?


All the lots in the same string usually only have one show lot that the buyers can look at. So it is not the pelts in the individual lots that they are bidding on.

Just a matter of people getting the number of pelts they need for a specific order, and being done buying after they get as many as they need. Sometimes they drop the price by one bid increment, but it opens up the floor to other buyers to bid up the price. Or a buyer trying to catch up with the auction to line up what they need.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: eedup] #7873398
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Originally Posted by eedup
On my trapper portal it still says no lots found....


Mine says the same. The not knowing is killing me. Almost like waiting for Santa.

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873415
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What Mike Kelly said about the difference in price.

All buyers see the same show lot. The same 6 or 7 skins. No matter if it is a lot of 30 or 300. Only a few skins (the sample) are on display. The other skins (the bulk) are packed away. In boxes or bags ready to be shipped to the buyer or his customer.


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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873431
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keep telling your self the reason you trap is because you like to havnt seen anything sell yet worth going after money wise even beaver selling 100 percent is still one of the cheapiest furs there is if you figure your time and money spent on them

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Luck of the draw sometimes which lot you fur lands in.
Think thereís a Ruskie bidding too, slipped through all the sanctionsÖ.lol

Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873441
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Re: FHA catalogs [Re: wissmiss] #7873452
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I wish I could have held out and sold the rest of my beaver on this sale. Had bigger sizes and better quality at the K. Falls OTC sale and averaged $26 on the 100 I sold there.


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