Re: Question for experenced mole trappers
[Re: varmintshooter]
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Bob Jameson
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This explanation " HOW TO " is a bit long, but I don't know how to post a video to shorten the explanation. This a more advanced method of capturing moles under these conditions. It may seem complicated, but it is just another technique. This is only for the benefit of those who have interest. Otherwise skip over the details below.
From my interpretation these clean out mounds are generally dug for development of nest chambers or establishing a more suitable climate area necessary for their needs. Obviously, they can't displace the volume of excavated dirt in those deeper areas by just compacting the soil with their heads and paddle feet. This method is how most shallow foraging tunnel runs are made. Every now and then you will see small mounds of surface dirt along a shallow mole feeding tunnel run. Same principal, just a different reason of dirt mounding. Get the dirt up and out of the way.
Those larger mounds usually develop at two times of the year around our regional mole job areas. When the heat of the summer is approaching some must go deeper to avoid heat stroke and follow the retreating food source also. Some take up harborage into mulch beds or the shade of trees and shrubbery. They have very high metabolisms due to their constant foraging and digging. Usually in the fall/winter they will want to get deep to develop nest chambers to prepare for the coming breeding season and the pup rearing periods.
I have seen those large dirt mounds develop up through several inches of snow locally here in the winter months. They appear like small volcanos rising above the snow. One fact I have learned when trapping moles while they are excavating in this manner, is that this mounding process does not last or take long. A few hours to a day or so at best in my experience. The depth determines the length of time needed to complete the work.
How to determine if mound is still under construction, is if the surface dirt on top of the mound is still dark in color. That shows that the soil is freshly excavated and still holds high moisture content. If the dirt appears lighter or tan in color the cleanout is most likely finished or near completion. At this time the mole will back plug the hole to the surface.
If this happens, and too much time has not passed since the completed excavation, you can still catch it.
This is how I deal with this situation.
You must remove all the mounded dirt down to the surface of the grass or sod. Clean it off well enough so you can find the plugged surface opening more easily. These tunnels to the surface are always made at a steep angle from all the ones I have dug into. Not completely straight down, but they are in my experience at a sharp angle.
I suppose this grade angle is to allow the mole easier pushing of the excavated dirt up and out of the tunnel at ground level. They are in fact pushing dirt up thru an already existing dirt mound. It is amazing the strength of these small mammals to be able to push all that dirt up and thru that mounded dirt to make room for more dirt.
Knowing this information:
I use a dandelion probing tool for all of my mole work. It is used to probe areas to establish tunnel runs, bed my traps, tell me the direction of the mole run and to clean out runs for setting traps.
In this case, once the mounded dirt is removed, I probe down into the ground surface carefully with my tool, only under the area of the mound. The plugged surface hole will be near the center of the mound. A long screwdriver can also be used for this purpose. You can feel your probe plunge into a soft spot. That will be your surface tunnel opening. It will have a few inches of dirt plugging that area. Carefully, clean out the dirt. I use a very small metal hoe looking tool that I made to remove this plugged tunnel dirt.
I then probe the tunnel to establish the angle of the tunnel and its direction. This is vitally important. We use the Trapline traps exclusively for mole work. They are a very effective trap once you learn how to use them in different ways of setting them. Once I establish the direction and angle of the tunnel, I use my MTP tool to develop the proper trap bed chamber for placing the trap. Make sure your trap is lined up perfectly into the sloped descending tunnel run.
You only set 1 trap in this surface breach tunnel.
I leave the area open and do not cover the hole. You should be able to look right into the surface tunnel and see your trap and when or if you make a catch. When the mole detects that air flow and light that is coming into his plugged tunnel guess what he is going to do? He is going to once again bring up dirt to do the job again. In making these trips to the surface, if you have done your part of setting up well, you can catch it.
The moles' reaction to plug this opening will likely only happen if the tunnel is still being traveled and maintained. That is why it is important that you can read the sign of the mounds age and the stage of construction it is in.
I get a few of these circumstances every year, so I learned how to read the sign and set these areas up and if the mounds are still being worked on I will catch that mole.
Like stated I get quite a few shrews in my traps. Not many voles but several shrews every year.
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Re: Question for experenced mole trappers
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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12/17/23 02:15 PM
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varmintshooter
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Mr. Jameson I was hoping you would share some of your knowledge. I have Out of Sight traps and MPT traps. I bought two of your tools several years ago and they work great. My buddy trapping the moles will be glad to know how to attack these things with the volcano mounds. By the way the critters were voles not shrews. Thank you VS
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Re: Question for experenced mole trappers
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01/12/24 08:03 PM
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next time if you have a mole problem again buy plastic peddle mouse traps and dig a spot in there underground run and place two facing opposite ways in there runs and put a piece of wood over top and check it every day and that's how i catch them
PETA is stupid.
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Re: Question for experenced mole trappers
[Re: varmintshooter]
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02/06/24 09:15 PM
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wws
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Steve I have not tried that but will. With the OOS traps being so poorly made now I need to order a bunch of yours. I have a couple big jobs coming up soon. That should give me time to really get better at using your traps. I was taught by a Mennonite farmer 30 years ago with OOS traps, old habits are hard to get rid of. Our Camas gophers are big too! so I will need a mix of traps, I have been using the Cinch Trap. wws
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