Re: Presidential data
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I am afraid unbiased numbers do not exist , some may be better than others but don't count on a presidential archive to tell the truth any better than anywhere else.
remember how Obama created 250K green jobs overnight and without effecting unemployment so much as 0.10% ?
that is because creation is in the change in definition and not any actual work.
I am just using this as an example , it is a clear one.
every bus driver , cab driver , resale shop worker , railroad employee , airline pilot , used car salesman, pawn broker overnight became labeled as a green job. They didn't get so much as a letter or tax status change to let them know this had happened that they were now a new class of green jobs , most probably still have no idea.
there is a reason statistics is a required class in nearly every college , because you need to learn how to twist the number to both lie and tell the truth at the same time so you can see the lie in all the "truth".
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Re: Presidential data
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I am afraid unbiased numbers do not exist , some may be better than others but don't count on a presidential archive to tell the truth any better than anywhere else.
Yup. Plus, they keep changing the metric and how it's measured, ie, inflation, etc
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Re: Presidential data
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Anyone know a site where I guy could go to get just the number regarding various stuff ( economic, immigration, environmental what nots and so on) during a presidential term ? I really don't care about all the extra feelings and other crap every place / new station I've tried already tries to push. I just want the unbiased numbers . As good or bad as they are. Anyone know if a site ? Thank you Just ask me Wolfie. I got you.
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Re: Presidential data
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I am afraid unbiased numbers do not exist , some may be better than others but don't count on a presidential archive to tell the truth any better than anywhere else.
remember how Obama created 250K green jobs overnight and without effecting unemployment so much as 0.10% ?
that is because creation is in the change in definition and not any actual work.
I am just using this as an example , it is a clear one.
every bus driver , cab driver , resale shop worker , railroad employee , airline pilot , used car salesman, pawn broker overnight became labeled as a green job. They didn't get so much as a letter or tax status change to let them know this had happened that they were now a new class of green jobs , most probably still have no idea.
there is a reason statistics is a required class in nearly every college , because you need to learn how to twist the number to both lie and tell the truth at the same time so you can see the lie in all the "truth".
A whole lotta truth in your post.
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Re: Presidential data
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Wolfie, the real and only way to answer your question is to remember how much money you had in your pocket during which presidents term. Did any president cause the price of your health insurance to go up substantially? Did you pay more for fuel under a certain president? Which presidents increased the war machine? It is a very easy answer without violating the politics rule.
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Re: Presidential data
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Wolfie, the real and only way to answer your question is to remember how much money you had in your pocket during which presidents term. Did any president cause the price of your health insurance to go up substantially? Did you pay more for fuel under a certain president? Which presidents increased the war machine? It is a very easy answer without violating the politics rule. Or a very complex one, if you want to delve deeper. The current inflation was initiated by Trump and then increased exponentially by Biden. And most everything is that way. If you dig deep, you'll find that most all congressmen, politicians, presidents, etc. are against your values. Trump, if he wins, will be no Savior. He might slow the rot.... or he might not. Biden will almost certainly speed up the rot. Which may not be a bad thing? Scout, some of us, although it may be hard to believe, put country above self. I realize that's a rare trait these days.
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Re: Presidential data
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Re: Presidential data
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I am afraid unbiased numbers do not exist , some may be better than others but don't count on a presidential archive to tell the truth any better than anywhere else.
remember how Obama created 250K green jobs overnight and without effecting unemployment so much as 0.10% ?
that is because creation is in the change in definition and not any actual work.
I am just using this as an example , it is a clear one.
every bus driver , cab driver , resale shop worker , railroad employee , airline pilot , used car salesman, pawn broker overnight became labeled as a green job. They didn't get so much as a letter or tax status change to let them know this had happened that they were now a new class of green jobs , most probably still have no idea.
there is a reason statistics is a required class in nearly every college , because you need to learn how to twist the number to both lie and tell the truth at the same time so you can see the lie in all the "truth".
Cooking the Books !
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