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A lot of Sheriffs have already said they will uphold our Constitutional rights. Be a show down at a State by State level as far as confiscation is concerned. And don’t forget that a Sheriff can deputize as many deputies as he needs.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: Bruce T]
#8186307 08/01/2412:34 PM08/01/2412:34 PM
Kamala would be the final straw that breaks the camels back.
That camel's back was already broken with the passage of the NFA way back in 1934. Ever since then presidents both democrat and republican (including trump) have supported ever-increasing gun control.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: Wanna Be]
#8186318 08/01/2412:47 PM08/01/2412:47 PM
A lot of Sheriffs have already said they will uphold our
rights. Be a show down at a State by State level as far as confiscation is concerned. And don’t forget that a Sheriff can deputize as many deputies as he needs.
This is true. In most all states the county Sheriff is a constitutional state officer. As such they usually have more authority than county commission or city governments and answer to the governor.
But it's not across the board in all states or in practice. Up here in the metro most sheriffs have been relegated to just jailers and warrant servers in practice.
Henry has a county police force answerable to the commission because a long time back a sheriff butted heads with the county commission. If I understand the history correctly there was a quasi war between the two way back when.
Clayton the sheriff is defacto it's own little kingdom independent of the commission.
It's the rural county sheriffs that we'll have to rely on so do y'all's best to keep good men in office and don't let your commissions get out of hand.
We got good sheriffs still in Spalding and Butts but we're playing hob trying to keep bad actors off the county commissions.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: Blaine County]
#8186337 08/01/2401:09 PM08/01/2401:09 PM
Yes, he is better on the 2A than Kamala but let's not act like he is some 2A hero. He sucks on the 2A.
Please, nobody get their panties in a wad, I said he is better than Kamala. It's like being the tallest midget.
the guy got SHOT and still believes in the Second Amendment, chastising Kamala for wanting to ban semi's.
that makes him a Second Amendment Hero in my book.
Definitely!
He now has every political excuse he could ever need to go full anti 2A and if anything he goes harder for 2A.
I do believe DJT has shifted from his "bump stock" and "take the guns" errors of his first term as it wasn't really an issue for him in his world then but now after years of being on the receiving end of lawfare understands that it is his issue and the issue for all of us.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: white marlin]
#8186373 08/01/2402:23 PM08/01/2402:23 PM
Yes, he is better on the 2A than Kamala but let's not act like he is some 2A hero. He sucks on the 2A.
Please, nobody get their panties in a wad, I said he is better than Kamala. It's like being the tallest midget.
the guy got SHOT and still believes in the Second Amendment, chastising Kamala for wanting to ban semi's.
that makes him a Second Amendment Hero in my book.
Yep he is as pro gun as the NRA. The biggest supporters of the wors gun restrictions passed starting in 1934. Other than the 94 Clinton ban I don't think there gas been a federal restriction they have not gotten behind but I may be forgetting a few.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186376 08/01/2402:25 PM08/01/2402:25 PM
Thank you, Keith, for posting this one. I saw it last night . I try to catch every rally. Trump is scheduled to be in my Montana, Bozeman, the 9th . Along with Tim Sheehy , who is going hard in success to oust Tester. I met Tim several days ago. A Navy Seal...a perfect choice for the people of MT. He was very nice to visit with and listen to.
I won't be attending that one in person but will be on keen lookout to watch it on video.
I also am keen to see his rally back on the grounds where he was shot. That will be a remarkable timeline for him, and the people who will surely flock to see him there.
I can see you at one of those rallies too, Racer Man .
the guy got SHOT and still believes in the Second Amendment, chastising Kamala for wanting to ban semi's.
that makes him a Second Amendment Hero in my book.
Yep he is as pro gun as the NRA. The biggest supporters of the wors gun restrictions passed starting in 1934. Other than the 94 Clinton ban I don't think there gas been a federal restriction they have not gotten behind but I may be forgetting a few.
Perhaps you are unaware of the ongoing and continuing wins we are getting from SCOTUS?
In the last four years, the 2A legal landscape has been radically adjusted in our favor in multiple different rulings, the two most notable being Bruen and the elimination of the Chevron Doctrine.
You can send your thank you note to Donald J Trump. A small donation to his reelection campaign would be greatly appreciated.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186437 08/01/2403:54 PM08/01/2403:54 PM
Does not mean he didn't clearly state he doesn't like the idea of silencer. And does not mean he didn’t pass an executive order even his own judges Shot down. Play it any way you want but his record and statements are not pro gun. Just because his son hunts or he says he is pro gun it's not an issue he deeply cares about and goes with what he thinks Is popular. Have the NRA say something needs looked at and he thinks it OK with his base he will make it illegal asap. Been there done that. Exactly what you get from a populist.
Yes I voted for him and look forward to doing so again. I think he is the best president in my lifetime. But the guy Is Luke warm on guns at best. Just because I like and can't wait for the man to be president again doesn't mean I'm going to lie or make excuses about him being pro gun
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186444 08/01/2404:08 PM08/01/2404:08 PM
Yep he is as pro gun as the NRA. The biggest supporters of the wors gun restrictions passed starting in 1934. Other than the 94 Clinton ban I don't think there gas been a federal restriction they have not gotten behind but I may be forgetting a few.
I'm calling you out...NAME the gun restrictions that the NRA got behind (and you'd better have good, independent citations, not just your opinion, or that of GOA)
while you're doing that, I'll be looking up which and how many anti-gun politicians your union supported. (which union is that?)
Last edited by white marlin; 08/01/2404:37 PM.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186457 08/01/2404:26 PM08/01/2404:26 PM
White marlin in the post you quoted it states 1934 , 68, 86 . I will give you the dates. You can figure out what goes with the names like hues amendment and look up how the NRA supported each of them. People don't respect things they don't have to work for so I won't give you all the info just the starting points. Its your hob to be informed and not a blind follower.
Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Yep he is as pro gun as the NRA. The biggest supporters of the wors gun restrictions passed starting in 1934. Other than the 94 Clinton ban I don't think there gas been a federal restriction they have not gotten behind but I may be forgetting a few.
I'm calling you out...NAME the gun restrictions that the NRA got behind (and you'd better have good, independent citations, not just your opinion, or that of GOA)
Last edited by Providence Farm; 08/01/2404:38 PM.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: Blaine County]
#8186464 08/01/2404:41 PM08/01/2404:41 PM
Does not mean he didn't clearly state he doesn't like the idea of silencer. And does not mean he didn’t pass an executive order even his own judges Shot down. Play it any way you want but his record and statements are not pro gun. Just because his son hunts or he says he is pro gun it's not an issue he deeply cares about and goes with what he thinks Is popular. Have the NRA say something needs looked at and he thinks it OK with his base he will make it illegal asap. Been there done that. Exactly what you get from a populist.
Yes I voted for him and look forward to doing so again. I think he is the best president in my lifetime. But the guy Is Luke warm on guns at best. Just because I like and can't wait for the man to be president again doesn't mean I'm going to lie or make excuses about him being pro gun
Go back and read my comments. I believe he is evolving on an issue that was once not a part of his Manhattan world. Easy to say take the guns when guns don't exist in any meaningful way in your world or you've never had cause to even think about it.
I agree he F'ed up on bump stocks and red flags but honestly what would one expect from the uneducated. He's gotten nearly eight years worth of hard education now and seems to have learned a few things. I won't hold ignorance against anyone who is willing to learn and change.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: Providence Farm]
#8186473 08/01/2404:51 PM08/01/2404:51 PM
White marlin in the post you quoted it states 1934 , 68, 86 . I will give you the dates. You can figure out what goes with the names like hues amendment and look up how the NRA supported each of them.
you made the accusation, but won't stand behind it...merely citing a gun control law doesn't prove who supported it.
what's the name of your union?
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186475 08/01/2404:53 PM08/01/2404:53 PM
White marlin in the post you quoted it states 1934 , 68, 86 . I will give you the dates. You can figure out what goes with the names like hues amendment and look up how the NRA supported each of them.
you made the accusation, but won't stand behind it...merely citing a gun control law doesn't prove who supported it.
what's the name of your union?
Are you saying that every dollar you spend with corporations is only to corporations who supports your political views.
Never been to Walmart? Never used Amazon? Who made your cell phone? What cell phone company do you use?
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186509 08/01/2405:48 PM08/01/2405:48 PM
but union members have the right to reject the deduction of the portion of THEIR union dues used for political purposes. (but they rarely, if ever do...I'd bet the percentage of those who do are in the single digits)
in your example, the only way an average consumer can stop those contributions is to not buy anything from that corporation. I can't buy an item and then deduct the portion of the price they will use for political purposes. once the money leaves my hands, it's no longer mine.
it's ABSOLUTELY possible in EVERY case with union dues...
Last edited by white marlin; 08/01/2406:10 PM.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: upstateNY]
#8186596 08/01/2406:59 PM08/01/2406:59 PM
but union members have the right to reject the deduction of the portion of THEIR union dues used for political purposes. (but they rarely, if ever do...I'd bet the percentage of those who do are in the single digits)
in your example, the only way an average consumer can stop those contributions is to not buy anything from that corporation. I can't buy an item and then deduct the portion of the price they will use for political purposes. once the money leaves my hands, it's no longer mine.
it's ABSOLUTELY possible in EVERY case with union dues...
You have ZERO knowledge of how Union dues work.But just keep making stuff up and pretend its true.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186600 08/01/2407:07 PM08/01/2407:07 PM
Hay folks around here there are very few Trump signs in lawns. 8 years ago they were everywhere, that must mean something???? And I don't think it is to early for them to be up. This worries me.......jk
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186661 08/01/2408:33 PM08/01/2408:33 PM
There's some President Trump signs up around here, but most have been up, with necessary replacements, since the last election.
Last election, I only saw 2 biden signs within 20 miles of here. I went to the poor black section of Dayton and biden signs were all over, with only a few signs for President Trump.
Keith
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: jk]
#8186662 08/01/2408:34 PM08/01/2408:34 PM
Hay folks around here there are very few Trump signs in lawns. 8 years ago they were everywhere, that must mean something???? And I don't think it is to early for them to be up. This worries me.......jk
I don't see much of any political signage here at all yet.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186675 08/01/2408:43 PM08/01/2408:43 PM
Hay folks around here there are very few Trump signs in lawns. 8 years ago they were everywhere, that must mean something???? And I don't think it is to early for them to be up. This worries me.......jk
Check again after labor day,..cameltoe is riding the media gravy train now.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186703 08/01/2409:05 PM08/01/2409:05 PM
White marlin in the post you quoted it states 1934 , 68, 86 . I will give you the dates. You can figure out what goes with the names like hues amendment and look up how the NRA supported each of them.
you made the accusation, but won't stand behind it...merely citing a gun control law doesn't prove who supported it.
what's the name of your union?
If you want to remain ignorant that your choice . The B RA supported each of thoe law passed I listed. The simple fact that you don't even know what the group you champion has done shows your complete ignorance. It's not accusation it's facts. I wont.lilook it up for you remain blissfully ignorant it will make.you feel better not to know your group has supported the worst gun control laws ever passed.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186878 08/02/2405:35 AM08/02/2405:35 AM
while you're chastising others' efforts for not being strong enough; save a little vitriol for yourself for supporting the gun grabbers with your union membership. if those politicians weren't elected in the first place (with 100 percent support by the unions), there wouldn't be gun legislation even proposed.
I know a trapper who supports every left leaning, socialist politician who is on the ballot. when I mentioned that he's supporting animal rights candidates, he countered by saying he donates to NTA and the state trapping organizations.
he's too stupid to recognize that the very threats to trapping he "fights" against are the direct result of his voting.
there's a lesson there...
Last edited by white marlin; 08/02/2405:58 AM.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: white marlin]
#8186928 08/02/2407:38 AM08/02/2407:38 AM
if those politicians weren't elected in the first place (with 100 percent support by the unions), there wouldn't be gun legislation even proposed.
Only about 10% of the work force is Union,,so must be a WHOLE LOT of you Union haters helping vote those gun grabbers in office.But hey,,dont let factual statistics cloud your judgement.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: upstateNY]
#8186936 08/02/2407:50 AM08/02/2407:50 AM
if those politicians weren't elected in the first place (with 100 percent support by the unions), there wouldn't be gun legislation even proposed.
Only about 10% of the work force is Union,,so must be a WHOLE LOT of you Union haters helping vote those gun grabbers in office.But hey,,dont let factual statistics cloud your judgement.
the ONLY issue with unions that I have is their undying support for socialist politicians.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8186939 08/02/2407:51 AM08/02/2407:51 AM
Weather you are a member or not, I figure if everyone is willing to admit that the unions do indeed support gun grabbing democrats, then we're on the same page. And obviously unions aren't the only supporters. They all need to be called out.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: loosegoose]
#8186951 08/02/2408:05 AM08/02/2408:05 AM
Kamala would be the final straw that breaks the camels back.
That camel's back was already broken with the passage of the NFA way back in 1934. Ever since then presidents both democrat and republican (including trump) have supported ever-increasing gun control.
Not what I was talking about
NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA
#1 goal=Trap a wolverine
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: upstateNY]
#8186956 08/02/2408:13 AM08/02/2408:13 AM
Weather you are a member or not, I figure if everyone is willing to admit that the unions do indeed support gun grabbing democrats, then we're on the same page. And obviously unions aren't the only supporters. They all need to be called out.
And exactly why in not a die hard union man. I'm union becue it's the best paying best benefits job with the safest working conditions I have found. No I don't agree with their push and support of democrats an why I filled out the paperwork saying thay can't send any of my money to them . That said union jobs in my area are typically the best paying best benefits and safest conditions. Maybe it's different in other areas? Not all union jobs are the same either. Heck people think Ford is a great place to work. But after looking at the package thay have I declined the offer to stay where I'm at. That was back when they may keep you as a temp for years though. Now I'm in a much more solid spot and would have to look at it again I heard they got rid of the kiiepmg people as demos for 5 to 7 years now . Point is not all union jobs are equal any more than ar non union jobs.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: KeithC]
#8187149 08/02/2402:16 PM08/02/2402:16 PM
it's no more difficult than asking for trapping permissions. (some of y'all still TRAP, don't you???)
Actually, this is EASIER than asking trapping permissions...the list of your local folks to contact are pre-disposed to our way of thinking. But, they are low-propensity VOTERS; they often don't bother.
it's OUR job to make contact and try to get their commitment to actually VOTE!
it's called "the Ground Game", and we've been LOSING that the last few elections.
Last edited by white marlin; 08/02/2407:56 PM.
Re: President Trump Live on the Second Amendment.
[Re: white marlin]
#8187439 08/02/2407:59 PM08/02/2407:59 PM
it's no more difficult than asking for trapping permissions. (some of y'all still TRAP, don't you???)
Actually, this is EASIER than asking trapping permissions...the list of your local folks to contact are pre-disposed to our way of thinking. But, they are low-propensity VOTERS; they often don't bother.
it's OUR job to make contact and try to get their commitment to actually VOTE!
it's called "the Ground Game", and we've been LOSING that the last few elections.